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Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Yet another reason not to use Signal. The correct behavior would have been for signal to offer an official snap or to contact the maintainer. Instead they send their legal team...

Signal offers an official deb. The correct behavior would have been for third parties to not distribute trademark-infringing binaries and call them Signal

Binaries are just condensed source code. So when the source code is AGPL I sure as hell can distribute binaries if I like.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Not GP but I'm a Signal user and here are my gripes: - No easy way to do and restore backups on Android and impossible to do backups on their PC client - Does not support Android tablets at all (my mom loves hers) - Fails to ring on Android when you call someone or someone calls you, later serving you a missed call notification (disabled Doze/battery optimization feature on Android and tested on 3 different phones wi…

The only one of these that is a ‘bug’ is the failure to ring on android. The rest are all feature requests. That said, it’s interesting to see what people think are basic requirement for a messaging app these days.

The camera thing is definitely a bug, on iOS there are issues, too (eg doesn’t rotate pictures from landscape to portrait correctly).

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Moxies always been fairly dictatorial about Signal. no third party clients, no decentralization. im not surprised to see a DMCA at all. So far Signal is a centralized encrypted messaging app that includes its own cryptocurrency and wallet no one asked for, shills me for donations every other release, and begs me to invite new users despite deprecating regular SMS message support. if youre a threat-actor the most male…

This doesn’t change the fact that signal is the best option for my grandma to use still. Moxie is no longer active in signal afaik. This is the new leadership.

> This doesn’t change the fact that signal is the best option for my grandma to use still.

Is it? How do you measure that? It seems like WhatsApp is a better default choice for most people probably.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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So you're saying signal requested their own program be removed from the snap store? Sorry, I'm a little confused on terms. When you say snap maintainer, are you saying you are the maintainer of the signal snap package, or that you're a maintainer of snap itself?

Wasn’t their own program. They have a binary they distribute, this was some other binary calling itself Signal without their approval.

If that's the issue, it's (at most) a trademark violation instead of a copyright violation, which means the DMCA complaint was filed under false premises.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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That's funny, because in accordance with my policy I delete snap immediately after install.

My new policy is to just install Debian instead.

Consider tweaking your policy to install Devuan instead.

Basically the same thing, but not only does it not have snap, it's also systemd-free :-)

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Honestly not what I expected to hear about Moxie. Any more tales that back this up? If this line of behavior is true then I think it's time to move on.

Reading this thread is what convinced me to switch away from Signal and investigate Matrix: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...

Curious what all you had to do to switch from Signal to Matrix.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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post #126

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Not GP but I'm a Signal user and here are my gripes: - No easy way to do and restore backups on Android and impossible to do backups on their PC client - Does not support Android tablets at all (my mom loves hers) - Fails to ring on Android when you call someone or someone calls you, later serving you a missed call notification (disabled Doze/battery optimization feature on Android and tested on 3 different phones wi…

The only one of these that is a ‘bug’ is the failure to ring on android. The rest are all feature requests. That said, it’s interesting to see what people think are basic requirement for a messaging app these days.

>The rest are all feature requests.

More like missing basic features. I never said all are bugs, I said some are bugs and that all these things exist and work on the other alternatives like WhatsApp or Telegram

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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This kind of thing is vindicating for those of us who stayed away from snaps precisely because the server side is proprietary and the snap tooling only supports Canonical's centralized store. A centralized service being the only option for software distribution is too large of a failure point, no matter who's running it.

The application went down because of a DMCA request. The same would've happened with APT repositories and other distribution systems in that the "official" source would disappear. You could've installed it from an alternative source were that to happen to a simple repository but you still can now. I have plenty of gripes with Snap but this time the Signal team is to blame.

Signal never gave canonical permission to distribute a binary called Signal. Canonical just went ahead and did it anyway. How is this Signal’s fault?

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Signal offers an official deb. The correct behavior would have been for third parties to not distribute trademark-infringing binaries and call them Signal

Binaries are just condensed source code. So when the source code is AGPL I sure as hell can distribute binaries if I like.

What is GNU IceCat (formerly IceWeasel) then?

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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This doesn’t change the fact that signal is the best option for my grandma to use still. Moxie is no longer active in signal afaik. This is the new leadership.

> This doesn’t change the fact that signal is the best option for my grandma to use still. Is it? How do you measure that? It seems like WhatsApp is a better default choice for most people probably.

Except it's owned by Meta, who I really wouldn't trust even if they say it's E2EE.
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