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Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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I suspect ungoogled-chromium[1] is not affected by google's changes to chrome://newtab . If anyone wants to stop using Chrome but isn't drawn to any of the alternatives, perhaps you'll like ungoogled-chromium. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungoogled-chromium

It's worth noting that UGC has some significant security regressions https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/

Interesting to learn. Are these issues fixable? I'm not familiar with what changes went into UGC but something like changing the compiler toolchain seems like a strange decision.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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I'm so tired of seeing people recommend Brave. Firefox is what the web needs. Organizational shenanigans aside, Firefox is the best browser on the market right now.

yeah, except it doesn't work half the time (I have issues with it on MS Teams, Outlooks, even Gmail sometimes) the Mozilla boss thinks the solution is raise her own pay and fire devs. EDIT: and I should mention that I am a die-hard Firefox fanboy, that I've been using it since like Firefox 2 or something, and that seeing it fail to properly render certain web apps and having to use chromium, which I consider to be ug…

What extensions are you using? I (anecdotally) never have any of the issues you describe. And I'm on my computer 12+ hours per day, most of which is spent galivanting across the web in Firefox. Are you using a forked version of Firefox?

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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The internet doesn't work without advertising. Almost as if the money to build all this infrastructure has to come from somewhere. If only we could create a digital token that would be in such demand it would generate its own network and infrastructure effect. Oh wait... they ruined that, too.

In the good old days, the money came from your job. And you used that money to create free content out of the kindness of your heart.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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post #23

This is not "unprecedented" at all, see e.g. here: https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/lf9egy/comment/iivz...

I am not sure why you're being downvoted. Both the newtab (at the bottom of the page) and the search page have had subtle "ads" for google's new product launches. I remember seeing it for Stadia, and I remember seeing it for "Google One"

I believe* the first ad ever under the search bar at google.com was to download Firefox. They've been doing it for that long...

* I think I read that in some book about Marissa Mayer and her decisions around the homepage.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Say you're a decision-maker at Google (or Any Large Corp). You have a KPI to increase revenue by 5% this year. If you hit this KPI, then you get a bonus. If you get the bonus, then you can afford the thing that your partner has been wanting forever (or that will make your neighbours jealous, or whatever), and you get a happy life. You know that doing X will harm the company in the long term (defined as anything past…

How do we fix this loop in companies? It is a very serious problem for humanity’s future. It exists in government too. How do we reward long-term thinking and decisions?

Family owned/controlled businesses think in terms of "what will the next generation inherit?"

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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It was inevitable, you gotta get the infite growth from somewhere. Ane the next move will +1 this and so on, until google becomes less attractive than leaner competition. Because of inertia, legacy and people benefitting from the status quo, they won't be able to correct course. This is textbook "how empire falls" and why things that seem indestructible eventually dies like anything else. This will be the mile stone…

The first sign was when they killed google reader, like 10 years ago.

It was obvious to the founders of google before they founded google:

> The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users.

- Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page, The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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yeah, except it doesn't work half the time (I have issues with it on MS Teams, Outlooks, even Gmail sometimes) the Mozilla boss thinks the solution is raise her own pay and fire devs. EDIT: and I should mention that I am a die-hard Firefox fanboy, that I've been using it since like Firefox 2 or something, and that seeing it fail to properly render certain web apps and having to use chromium, which I consider to be ug…

What extensions are you using? I (anecdotally) never have any of the issues you describe. And I'm on my computer 12+ hours per day, most of which is spent galivanting across the web in Firefox. Are you using a forked version of Firefox?

I similarly have had very few issues with firefox and use it every day.

I fall back to edge if I have an issue but it's not common.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Who still using chrome? Use safari, brave, or Firefox.

Brave is way worse. They have product ads everywhere, pushed a weird crypto scam, and even injected affiliate codes in URLs. Firefox has ads on their new tab too. We need better and more respectful competitors.

I have never seen a 'product ad' anywhere on my brave. Crypto got turned off (and i also have an extensive hostsfile for that, too). Never seen an affiliate code being injected anywhere.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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post #191

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It's not really a matter of opinion or what people think. We're already in a recession here in the United States, as we've had two negative GDP growth quarters in a row. Anyone who says otherwise is likely just doing so for political reasons, as it's also an election year here in the United States, but to do so they'd have to literally change the definition of recession (they're trying but it's not working).

This is a classic example of how propaganda works. The layman's definition of recession, which has never been used officially or by policy-makers in America, is this bit about "negative GDP growth for two quarters". But despite that not being how we've always determined recessions here, if you read the reply above, the user has literally invented a political conspiracy about their ignorance about economics. The layma…

Your own wikipedia link references the standard - the standard used by the media and the traders that it's two quarters of negative GDP. NBER does tend to be considered the official source.. and they tend to announce them about a year after they happen. NBER is important but "determiner of recession" is not quite their job role.

You need only to glance at the markets to see the reality of the situation we are in.

The argument the WH made for us not being in a recession is that employment is high. That situation is quickly changing.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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By ads you mean the popular articles from Pocket? That is an ad for Pocket ?

Not sure if this is what the GP was referring to, but I constantly find Google and Amazon (two sites I almost never use) pinned to my frequently accessed sites in Firefox. I unpin them, then check all settings for any kind of advertising opt, and yet, some month later, they're back.

Are you installing Firefox and signing into them on new machines? I don't have hard evidence but I feel like when I install FF on a new box and sign in, the pinned sites sometimes show up on other machines when everything is synced.
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