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Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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Did you have to go through a lot of bureaucracy to get the whole thing installed?

No, because I am not connected to the grid. If I wanted to be, it’s a big hassle.

Does this mean that the solar elements are not connected to the grid, i.e you don't send your excess back to the energy company's grid or does it mean that your only power is solar? If is the former how does that work in practice you have different circuits for connected to the solar stuff?

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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Saying the equivalent of "no u" when no one else even brought up the USA is weird but I guess typically european way to deflect criticism . Not that comparing a regional blackout due to exceptional weather conditions, to a continent wide energy shortage cause by policy that has been going on for more than a year now makes any sense. (Even quebec, which is very used to extreme winters, lost electricity for nearly a mo…

> but I guess typically european way to deflect criticism It'd be great if you didn't lower yourself to name calling as well. (Note: I don't much like the comment you're responding to, but let's be civil here)

You are right. Sorry about that, I didn't mean it to be insulting.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #133

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Let‘s see. France heats with incredibly inefficient wall heaters. In any case, this winter is very special. It‘s not a good example to make an argument for one technology or another. Long-term I think Germany is better prepared. A lot of work has been going into heat pumps, properly isolating houses, renewables and so on.

If you already have a system where everybody uses electricity in house warming its far, far, far (and lots more fars) easier to switch to heat pumps while in Germany lots of houses have gas/oil heating. Going from that to heat pumps is 100x more difficult and costly. France is in a much better situation. Better isolation, heat pumps are technology independent, you just need reliable electricity.

Actually it is the other way around. The houses designed for electric heating usually don't have any heating pipes but just resistive heaters as part of the floor. You cannot convert that to heat pumps, you have to build a new heating system into the house including laying pipes, new floors.

On the other side, if you have a central heating system, you can replace the burner with a heat pump and leave the rest mostly unchanged. I say mostly, as you want to optimize the whole system towards lower water temperatures to get higher efficiencies of the heat pumps. But this can be done, and if you have in-the-floor heating already, this can be skipped as that works with low water temperatures anyway.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #151

Belgium just shut down a functional nuclear reactor: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Belgium-T...

When do you suggest nuclear reactors should be shut down? After they stop being functional? Seems risky. Is the timing unfortunate? Yes. But everything else is just exaggerated. This was a small reactor which was responsible for a tiny amount of production in a tiny country. Should we replace it? Maybe. But then we should have started construction 20 years ago. Given that this didn't happen, the rest of the discussio…

This reactor could have continued to run for a long time. It should be should down only if continued running it is more expensive then a complete rebuild of a base load that can replace it (not just a wind farm, but long term storage as well).

This is really a tragedy.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #122

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Actually Germany usually exports power to France. In fact many of the nuclear plants in France don‘t work, especially this year.

Amazing that people shit on France when the have been providing and exporting nuclear energy for 40 years. Saying that nuclear plants don't work is just idiotic when at any point you can look at CO2 intensity and France is always among the very best, and the best for a country so industrialized. And not just in the last 5 years, but the last 30 years. And the only reason nuclear plants in France have been down this y…

Yeah it's political. Greens have to get their money from somewhere, plus...plus sometimes people fuck up 200%. Not only not be in favor of something, and be neutral, that would be 100%. 200%, being doggedly against the only solution.

I consider evangelical Christians to have fucked up 200% with their response to gay marriage, instead of fighting it they should have made it mandatory, much better for the current spread of untold sexual diseases, not only the ones you've heard of, but thousands of new ones. All because they couldn't form the only bubble (group of sex partners) that actually works, a bubble of two. Marriage.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #160

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By building nuclear power plants and electrifying industry over the last 15 years since the Litvinenko poisoning, etc. But joining the war this year was crazy given the current situation, Europe is doomed.

Europe is not doomed. If we didn‘t join this war, the war would come to us. Most Europeans fortunately understand this.

It kind of is. A failed experiment sadly. They have brainwashed their people into destroying their quality of life to "save" the environment.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #53

Belgium just shut down a functional nuclear reactor: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Belgium-T...

https://taketonews.com/engie-repeats-message-after-open-lett... “The closing dates are determined by law and the licenses to operate the power plants end on those dates. That has been established for a long time and we have been preparing for that for a long time.” The government did ask Engie in July to see whether both reactors could possibly continue for a few more months to bridge the difficult winter, but accord…

If you only have governments that create regulation that make it impossible to operate then things are impossible to operate.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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post #21

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I wonder if it is cost effective going forward to install two meters and panels on every house with one being “essential” and the other being “intermittent” so the power company has the option of blacking out the intermittent boxes only. I’d rather have all my computers, lights, etc shut down than my whole house.

Firstly, how would you keep consumers honest about what’s essential? Secondly, I think “essential” will depend on the duration of the blackout. For a blackout of a few hours, keeping WiFi running so that work from home can continue probably is more essential than heating a water boiler. If the blackout takes a few days, that may change.

Charge higher rates for essential. Offer rebates for certain users with life safety requirements for uninterrupted power.

Re: Europe is in danger of rolling electricity shortages

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It is so funny to see all those anti-renewable lobbiests come out of the woods everybtime something happens with regard to energy that can be, somehow, blamed on renewables. Previously it was the fossil fuel lobby, now it is the pro nuclear lobby. All predict doom, everytime. And all of those fail to properly analyse the way electricity is priced on the European market, and then start looking at those special causes,…

The "pro nuclear lobby" doesn't even exist.

There's two big players, oil and renewable companies. Which are actually the same and both hate nuclear.

I thought this was obvious to everyone?

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