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Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Post by djsavvy »

speedgoose wrote: post #121
ryannevius wrote: post #20

Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

I didn’t know you could get a watch with more than 24 hours of battery life including GPS tracking (COROS APEX Pro). The accuracy is a bit weird though, the elevation chart doesn’t make sense.

A sibling comment to yours asked about the elevation --- apparently it's actually a measure of air pressure.

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Post by jeltz »

groby_b wrote: post #152
speedgoose wrote: post #121

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I didn’t know you could get a watch with more than 24 hours of battery life including GPS tracking (COROS APEX Pro). The accuracy is a bit weird though, the elevation chart doesn’t make sense.

High-end Garmin watches as well. The fenix 7 can do 48+h including tracking, the Enduro2 will likely go 3 days. And yes, elevation is bonkers, because GPS elevation via watch is about as precise as you guessing. (+/- 400 feet on Garmins, but I'm not sure there are any watches significantly better than that. )

Mid range Garmin watches too. The Forerunner 255 can do 30 hours. It is only their entry level stuff which cannot.

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Post by spiderfarmer »

vytis wrote: post #184

Another incredible ultra-runner from Lithuania is Aidas Ardzijauskas who last year completed his 444 day run covering 30303 km, which is on average 68km every day for almost 1.5 years! His plan originally was to run around the world, but during the pandemic it wasn't possible to do that so he just ran it all in Lithuania. Unfortunately there isn't much English-language coverage about the monumental feat, but this is…

That’s an amazing feat. Goes to show we once were predators who weren’t fast but had the stamina to outrun most of our prey.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

Aromasin wrote: post #188
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #170

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Everyone has had good points about conditioning, but I'm surprised no one has said it yet - fresh running shoes. I go through a pair each year. Until your body has adapted it's very important to have a good pair of supportive but cushioning shoes.

I have the strictly opposite advice to recommend. Ditch the cushioning completely. I had stress injuries every year until swapping to barefoot shoes, and have experienced none since. It changed my gait and allowed my stabiliser muscles to actually function. Could not recommend it enough.

Were you experiencing knee pain? It could be possible you were at a level were your tissues were adapted enough to able to accept that additional straing. And I would stress that works for you probably won't for others - as a few counter examples, Mr Sorokin was wearing shoes with cushions during his run, and other elite runners who grew up running shoe-less, such as Haile Gebreselassie, run with shoes.

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Post by cafard »

float4 wrote: post #175
cafard wrote: post #131

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Back in the 1980s, a man under 40 had to run a 2:50 marathon to qualify for the Boston Marathon. That's right around 6:30/mile. Quite a few did.

Assume 5% can run a marathon (definitely less) and that 2:50 is 90th percentile (definitely higher) and you're still top 99.5%. How is that not an "incredible feat" as the GP called it?

Well, because it was me. I regarded myself as a fair recreational runner, but nothing more.

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Post by anthonypasq »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #181
bena wrote: post #171

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Yeah, that's an average of about 5 miles a day.

That doesn't seem too long of a run until you realize it would need to be every day without rest days.

humans are remarkably good at running.

Granted this was in high school, but I went from huffing and puffing a 3 mile jog to being able to go for leisurely 8 mile runs within a couple months.

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Post by eitally »

sizzzzlerz wrote: post #83

How does one train for a 24 hour run? Do you need to run the full 24 or is it enough to run single or double marathon distances leading up to the race?

Alexandr had been running 185mi/wk average to train for this over the past 3 months. Lots of marathon and 2x marathon runs on back-to-back days. That said, there's an enormous chasm between someone like this training for a 24hr world record and your or I just training to finish a 24hr race on our feet.

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Post by runnr_az »

I know the US 24h record holder, Nick Coury from around the PHX trailrunning scene. He ran 173 miles in 24h on a track last year. Talking to him, it's all about meticulous training -- he's an engineer by background, so he basically measured and tweaked every variable, one at a time, until he found things that worked. Still, these runs are won and lost on efficiency -- to stay that focused for so long seems... uhhh... difficult.

https://www.irunfar.com/nick-coury-24-hour-american-record

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

sz4kerto wrote: post #174
AlwaysRock wrote: post #115

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I've never done super long runs (anything over 20 miles) but I just find it too boring. I can listen to a podcast or something but unless I'm running in a new area its just moving kinda slowly through spaces I've already seen. I've switched to biking now which tends to help my restless mind much more. I'm moving faster, I have to lock in more because when I'm going 15 mph or higher I cant zone out like I do when I'm…

Huberman talks about this in his podcast - he says that "don't stack dopamine". In this context - try to run without podcasts, then you'll enjoy more running and podcasts too.

Huberman must be one of those guys who experience the runner's high - I can't say I ever have, so podcasts and running is about getting back to normal rather than multiplying the happy.

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Post by anthonypasq »

bergenty wrote: post #198
Victerius wrote: post #23

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Even if it is, it's still his leg muscles, his cardiovascular endurance, his ability to remain awake for 24 hours doing an intense exercise without collapsing of fatigue. Substances don't confer superpowers.

Yes they do, amphetamines would accomplish everything you wrote above. With enough hydration and amphetamines I’m certain even I could accomplish this and my general time for a mile over 20 miles is currently 8.5 minutes.

go do it then
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