Unicode character “ꙮ” (U+A66E) is being updated

Post by sterlind » Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 12:47 AM UTC

Gare wrote: post #196

personjerry wrote: post #194

If you open the proposal [0] it kinda just looks like someone doodled some flowers on the text rather than actually used a particular letter. And given it's the ONLY existing record of this letter, it's very suspect isn't it? [0]: https://www.unicode.org/wg2/docs/n5170-multiocular-o.pdf

It's in place of "goo" in "mnogoočimi" (many-eyed) in the phrase "many-eyed seraphims", so it at least makes sense.

Post by jameshart » Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 1:06 AM UTC

runarberg wrote: post #169

jameshart wrote: post #166

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No just that, but whether or not Mars is still geologically active is still an open question. If you admit planets on the basis that they have a history of geological activity, then Ceres is a planet too. I don’t think anybody considers geological activity as particularly useful for classifying things as ‘planet’ or ‘not planet’.

Why shouldn’t Ceres be a planet? If Pluto gets to be a planet then Ceres is definitely a planet. But there is still active geology on Mars. There is still moisture, winds and ice-caps that are shaping the environment. I consider that to be geologically active. EDIT: And there are actual experts which consider active geology (or something similar) to be a planet, including Anton Petrov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?…

Post by eternityforest » Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 1:10 AM UTC

yakireev wrote: post #130

eternityforest wrote: post #125

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But that doesn't change the fact that most people use them snd like them, and there is not much technical disruption. They just chose practicality over purity.

Most people (me included) like funny cat videos and send funny cat videos. Shall we include some to Unicode? I mean, this ship has long sailed, but that was a mistake nevertheless. Not everything has to be a unicode character.

Post by kevin_thibedeau » Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 1:24 AM UTC

lmm wrote: post #190

School-Cotton wrote: post #187

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Why can’t it round-trip Japanese?

"Han Unification" - in Unicode many Japanese characters are represented as Chinese characters that look different (and subjectively ugly). The Unicode consortium's answer is that you're supposed to use a different font or something when displaying Japanese, which is pretty unsatisfying (e.g. if you want to have a block of text that contains both Japanese and Chinese, you can't represent that as just a Unicode string,…

Post by runarberg » Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 1:31 AM UTC

jameshart wrote: post #203

runarberg wrote: post #169

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Why shouldn’t Ceres be a planet? If Pluto gets to be a planet then Ceres is definitely a planet. But there is still active geology on Mars. There is still moisture, winds and ice-caps that are shaping the environment. I consider that to be geologically active. EDIT: And there are actual experts which consider active geology (or something similar) to be a planet, including Anton Petrov ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?…

Okay, but then you have to go and figure out which other asteroid and kuiper belt objects are planets. The 'dwarf planet' distinction helps solve this! There are planets - distinctive in that they have clear orbits - and there are dwarf planets, which can be part of belt systems. This is a useful distinction.