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The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by j0hnyl »

motohagiography wrote: post #75

Ripe fromage. If I were writing the sequel, it would be a series, and it would be about how they grew up and now they all work leading security at platform companies and government agencies. While reversing a worm that was unleashed by trolls to sabotage a social-credit/Nosedive-like app, Kate/acidburn finds the encoded string "that place where I put that thing that time," which has to be a reference to their old cre…

The most realistic character would be the one that is bitter having watched all his hacker friends make boat loads of money, but works some random software engineering job for an unimpressive salary while slowly drinking/eating themselves to death. Maybe it's Joey?

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by j0hnyl »

actionfromafar wrote: post #147
claudiulodro wrote: post #34

Between Hackers, Masters of Doom, and other rad 90s hacker-coder media, software development really seemed like a much more awesome career than it turned out to be. If I had a time machine I would warn young me that it's really more like a combination of Office Space and Wolf of Wall Street. It would be awesome to listen to Prodigy or Megadeth while hackin' with the gang though. I'm still down for that if it exists s…

I think many of us believed that for sure we are going to be the cool ones but we actually turned out more like Office Space people. Not everyone is Crash Override.

A lot of us are crash override when we are 16 years old. Life beats it out of us though.

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by j0hnyl »

mewse-hn wrote: post #160
cantSpellSober wrote: post #85

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Fight Club is the same plot in movie form right? Unreliable narrator, secret society (starting with "F") of anarcho-capitalists bent on bringing down Big Credit, cheesy hacking lingo etc?

The first season of mr. robot borrows a hell of a lot from fight club, but it diverges as the show goes on. One of the rare shows that sticks the landing.

Mr. Robot has a lot of obvious nods to its influences, and that's fine. I loved the series, hated the ending thouugh.

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by kragen »

sleepybrett wrote: post #194
kragen wrote: post #36

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I'd recommend The Internet's Own Boy , Buckaroo Banzai , Real Genius , Office Space , or Bret Victor's Inventing on Principle ahead of Hackers and Sneakers . Startup.com is pretty good as a movie about startups (I lived just about every minute of that movie, just at a different company) but it doesn't have any actual hackers in it. I hear Risk and Citizenfour , both about Wikileaks, and Revolution OS , about Linux an…

I'm a huge fan of buckaroo banzai but there is like one scene with a computer in it.

Von Neumann was a hacker since his childhood, not just after computers were invented. Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for being a hacker 340 years before computers were invented.

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by ramesh31 »

greggman3 wrote: post #120
ramesh31 wrote: post #40

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>Between Hackers, Masters of Doom, and other rad 90s hacker-coder media, software development really seemed like a much more awesome career than it turned out to be. I think it comes down to the fact that our industry has become rigid and beholden to the university education system. John Carmack and John Romero were both college dropouts. Their stories would probably be impossible today. What we have now is a world o…

What part of their story are you referring to? There are lots of indie devs that appear to be having great fun making games and doing well to boot. Valheim, Black Rock Galactic, Celeste, Dead Cells, Papers Please, Stardew Valley, Enter the Gungeon, Don't Starve, Undertale, etc. were all pretty bit hits, certainly made their developers millions of dollars, and AFAIK the developers were having fun making them.

> There are lots of indie devs that appear to be having great fun making games and doing well to boot.

See: the other posters comment about small profitable bootstrapped businesses being the only way to do this now. Successful indie devs are an anomaly. But my point was more that companies are far more risk averse these days than to let a group like Romero et. al. run loose on a new product idea without strict controls in place, and that the types of people selected for by these companies now ensures that.

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by bamboozled »

gw99 wrote: post #177
fudgy wrote: post #72

The Hackers soundtrack is the root node of all my electronic music discoveries… It all started with Orbital, Underworld, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Leftfield…

Completely agree with that. One of the best soundtracks in a film. Shame about the film!

The film was good

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by bamboozled »

derwiki wrote: post #110
jgilias wrote: post #74

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It very much does exist. Just look for places trying to change the very basics of how the world works by hacking on new technology. You know, the places that naturally attract cypherpunks, people distrustful of 'the system' and the like. You can also find people with that ethos in corporate places, but they get swarmed out by suits and people who went to coding school because it pays well.

Aside from crypto startups, could you share an example?

A Linux kernel developer ? A lot of those people seem like hackers in every sense of the word. They might not be hacking the Gibson but they are hackers.

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by paulryanrogers »

eddieroger wrote: post #90
halper wrote: post #53

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I think it's because most tech jobs are not in tech. If you work for a bank, you work for bank. If you work for a fashion retailer, you work for a fashion retailer. I've worked for a big pension fund and it was exactly like one imagines. Many meetings, a quiet office, slow and boring. I've also worked for small tech-focussed companies with technical nerds as founders; they were rather different, with music, dogs, vod…

I used to think that, too, but be warned: SaaS companies quickly become beholden to the sales org, and all of a sudden, working for a "tech" company becomes working for all the industries you serve. Very few tech companies are pure tech anymore. Basically only the private ones like Valve.

Considering Valve's game output I'd say they too have become drunk on easy money being a storefront. (Which isn't all bad, though I'd rather have HL3.)

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Post by benburton »

marshray wrote: post #186
lallysingh wrote: post #121

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Don't click the link please. There's a "special" redirect image when the referer is HN. Just go ahead and copy-paste the link to a new tab.

Thank you for spelling 'Referer' correctly!

Correctly but also incorrectly.

Re: The movie Hackers was released 27 years ago

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Post by ionwake »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #208
eddieroger wrote: post #90

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I used to think that, too, but be warned: SaaS companies quickly become beholden to the sales org, and all of a sudden, working for a "tech" company becomes working for all the industries you serve. Very few tech companies are pure tech anymore. Basically only the private ones like Valve.

Considering Valve's game output I'd say they too have become drunk on easy money being a storefront. (Which isn't all bad, though I'd rather have HL3.)

HL3 = IRL
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