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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Are there any good tv operating systems which use standard desktop/laptop architectures? Was excited by this until I saw it's only released for SoCs. My hacks/scripts on Windows + Flirc are getting tiresome.

Been looking at one of the Android distributions, BlissOS.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage.

The basic thing going on here is simply that the KDE guys are working on a 10' experience and that's great, there is no good 10' experience today on Linux. Unless you count Steam Big Picture mode I guess? But a desktop environment which knows what to do about 10' would be really exciting.

Edit: for anyone who's interested, this appears to be the repo for the Bigscreen project: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-bigscreen/activity

The distro images on the website may be out of date.

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A much cleaner implementation that doesn't clutter the room with cables and an old laptop. Added bonus that I wouldn't have to explain how it works to each guest that tries to use it (assuming that the UX resembles other TVs people have used).

But people have used computers before. It works exactly the same as a computer. I think it's much easier than using typical smart TV interfaces. It has the added bonus (over typical smart TV interfaces) that typing text becomes much faster. You can use the web browser as a web browser. You can use uBlock origin. You can have several tabs open at a time and switch between them at a sensible speed. It's so much better…

Even better, get a tiny computer and use cable ties to secure it to the TV mount (or velcro to the back of the TV). No wires will be seen.

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But when everyone keeps buying ""smart"" TVs and accepting the spyware, pretty soon they will start shipping with baked in 4G chips, and there will be no other option. Vote with your wallet by never buying a smart TV under any circumstance . They are cheaper than actual TVs because the data collected is so lucrative - buying one is implicitly supporting that slimy business model, even if you don't connect to WiFi.

Don’t even need 4G chips, just a regular ol’ wifi/bluetooth module thanks to stuff like Amazon Sidewalk: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/introducing-amazon-...

Love how the illustration shows houses directly on the road with no sidewalk.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Relevant: "There's a simple reason your new smart TV was so affordable: It's collecting and selling your data, and serving you ads" (2019) https://www.businessinsider.com/smart-tv-data-collection-adv...

The headline is not true. > Without that revenue stream, Baxter said, consumers would be paying more up front. "We'd collect a little bit more margin at retail to offset it," he said. A little bit. The value of that tracking is worth a lot to a company making near-zero margins, but it's not a very big impact on the full price.

TCL said they're now making more money with tracking than with sold TVs. Just as comparison.

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You don't typically don't want to switch output resolution to match the resolution of whatever your outputting on modern displays, but instead want to match the panel resolution and software scale the content. You're way too likely to confuse the monitor trying to match resolution. There's something to be said for matching frame rate, but there's even more dragons in that practically.

Truly modern TVs have much better scaling and frame interpolation than whatever your OS or media player can do.

Unlikely. I doubt that state of the art video processing is available in hardware. There are custom finetuned neural upscalers and frame interpolators available for every kind of content.

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Most new TVs are smart TVs so even if you do this you are still running on like Samsung have been caught screen capturing your TV and phoning home for advertising.

Your TV can't phone home unless you give it internet. Haven't heard of them shipping with mobile network access yet.

And that's what the Amazon Sidewalk mesh is for

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I'm a programmer with a postgrad education and 10 years in the industry and I don't know what those words mean.

Root file system (rootfs) that's based on dev-unstable branch of KDE Neon. This doc is obviously not aimed at non-techs, but for Linux-savy people the first sentence should fully explain the heading.

I think you mean KDE-savy - I've been using Linux for over 20 years and had no idea what this heading meant.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

I'm still rocking my 12 year old plasma TV, the thing won't die!

I connected a simple energy meter to my old (inherited with a house purchase so don't know exact age) 720p non-smart plasma TV to an energy meter just to get an idea of its power consumption. It was pulling between 350-400W! For comparison my 10 year old 1080p LED smart TV pulls about ~90W.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#210
I don't understand what this is. I read the explanation but didn't fully understand it.

It's an OS one can load onto a smart TV, replacing whatever is there? Like, if I had a Samsung TV that began advertising at me, this could overwrite the UI?

If so, I looked for a hardware compatibility list and saw only Raspberry Pi, which confused me.

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