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Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the NSF at least, most grants are awarded for 3-5 years. When the last policy shift happened (all grant-supported publications need to be publicly released into the NSF's publication archive), it applied to newly awarded grants. 4 years should give most existing grants a chance to cycle out.

Why not make it effective for all new grants going forward tomorrow?

It probably does.

But existing grants are still around.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#202

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand this is great for transparency and progress but this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

What is access like now, anyone can pay to access regardless of citizenship? If so, then it would seem most US citizens are paying twice to access the research anyways - the same deal as foreign countries. If this makes it free for everyone it's not really changing (most) anyone's relative cost - assuming I'm correct on the first point.

It’s not like the taxpayer was getting any monetary benefit from publishing with Elsevier. A private company was making money, not the scientist or government.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #188

This doesn't seem right. Instead, the author should be forced to send a copy to the whitehouse when they send it to the journal, and the whithouse should make it available for free as a government output.

This is being downvoted for some reason, but there's no reason that some govt branch couldn't require a copy that they would publish as part of the grant.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#204

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand this is great for transparency and progress but this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

> this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

Moral high ground?

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they not?

Because they are not paying for the research with their taxes and their governments are not reciprocating the openness.

Published research is accessible today by paying subscriptions to journals. The journals are privately owned. The end result is that today your tax $$ are going to enrich publishing companies many of which are not US companies either.

This way everyone benefits. There is no way of keeping the access embargoed to US citizens or tax payers. But that wasn't happening in the current model anyway.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#206

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand this is great for transparency and progress but this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

Scientific progress is not a zero sum game.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they not?

Because they are not paying for the research with their taxes and their governments are not reciprocating the openness.

Most international research is published in the same places as US research in part because prestige is aggregated by everyone doing the same.

Classified research inside the US remains classified of course.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume military R&D would be a big exception?

I don't think military R&D produces many academic papers, but anything going in a journal a foreign national can just buy should probably also be made available to the tax payer.

The US military funds a lot of basic and applied research that is openly published. DARPA is one agency that does this.

But separately there is classified research that isn't published.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#210
post #188

This doesn't seem right. Instead, the author should be forced to send a copy to the whitehouse when they send it to the journal, and the whithouse should make it available for free as a government output.

Too much bureaucracy. This is better.
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