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EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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There's more to Internet than downloading data straight to disk. Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection. We always need to advance because others are…

> which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection. The only thing that can saturate 1 Gb in practice in my experience are large downloads. Video conferencing, streaming etc. uses well below 100 Mbps (even 4k Netflix seems to be 25 Mbit/s). You'd need dozens of such applications running at the same time to come even close to saturating Gbit. This may change over time, but right now, there is very little need for…

> even 4k Netflix seems to be 25 Mbit/s

Netflix's help page says 4K uses "up to" 7GB/hour, or a little less than 16Mbps:

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/87

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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“real estate is expensive and NIMBYs don’t want it”… the end. (Also the story of why Hyperloop is pointless. technology isn’t the problem that needs solving! Fast rapid transit tech has existed since the 1980’s and it’s not the cost issue.)

Thats not the end... the project has secured funding and is estimated to have a route from sf to la by 2030. Also Elon Musk admitted that he had no intention of building hyperloop, it was just a way to detail HSR so he could sell more cars.

Detail? Derail?

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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This is just getting stupid. It's more marketing than anything else. It feels like the megahertz wars of the 90s. Your connection is SO MUCH more than just your local PHY rate. Let's start raising the bar. Show me you've optimized to reduce bufferbloat. Show me you care about RTT and not simply the cheapest pipe. I'm also not sure they have the capacity to deliver true 25Gb to for many folks simultaneously. https://w…

If you are using so much bandwidth on a gigabit line that the buffers are actually used, I'd think you probably want a higher grade of service than home internet.

I'm not sure I agree. Many devices can saturate a 1Gb pipe these days. Even if it's for a brief period of time, your latency sensitive applications will suffer. Everyone should be using AQM.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Do economical home routers exist that support these speeds? Seems silly to offer someone 25 Gbps fiber service if it doesn’t also include a >= 25 Gbps home router.

In short no, but ironically the last time I read about rural 10G fiber the one guy they interviewed was a radiologist who wanted to work from home lmao. In short, I don't think he was too worried about dropping $1k on a router etc. Granted, if I remember correctly I think the ISP actually loaned him some enterprise routing gear.

hahaha found it... ironically it's a vice article [0]

0 - https://www.vice.com/en/article/gv5m77/10-gbps-fiber-interne...

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

#205
I used to have EPB some 6 years or so ago. They were by far the best ISP I have ever used. I was also privy to an organization that had access to their 10Gb connection.

A public internet service has been on their radar for about a decade now, and I proud to see they managed to get it working.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

Check with sonic, they cover a big chunk of silicon valley with symmetrical gig fiber.

Every 3mo or so I check their website and all that's on offer is resold AT&T DSL.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“real estate is expensive and NIMBYs don’t want it”… the end. (Also the story of why Hyperloop is pointless. technology isn’t the problem that needs solving! Fast rapid transit tech has existed since the 1980’s and it’s not the cost issue.)

Thats not the end... the project has secured funding and is estimated to have a route from sf to la by 2030. Also Elon Musk admitted that he had no intention of building hyperloop, it was just a way to detail HSR so he could sell more cars.

source?

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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And here I am looking at properties that even Starlink would have trouble providing service to...

Running away to the mountains to escape it all? Need company?

No, the point is to escape company! :)
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