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Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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For me the biggest reason to never install apps is that with my browser I never am force fed videos. I have to click them. If it's an app, they can shove them down my throat with autoplay. Not so with current browser policies.

The world is going to shift to sheeple only using apps (shapples?) and those only using services inside a browser (browseers?). Browseers will be much happier and live richer lives.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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The problem is current AI generation contain no creativity, they are trained from human made data set. And machine generated data set is also learnt from human data

I would argue that human creativity is also recombination of existing images/thoughts/experiences. There is no ghost in the machine who comes up with novel ideas that didn't exist before. Everything new is just a combination of old ideas combined in new ways.

So if we fed an AI with Beethoven we'd get to Miles Davis and 2Pac?

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Under. Way under. Google Glass's spectacular failure had a chilling effect on the entire industry, but it failed due to (1) lack of killer apps, (2) poor aesthetics, and (3) consumer concern about privacy. But ML has revolutionized image and video processing, Apple etc. could design a less hideous headset, and nobody cares about privacy anymore.

> could design a less hideous headset, and nobody cares about privacy anymore. I think it would help to not make most of the promotional material about video recording, and not make a huge camera the most visible feature. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Quest lineup, including rumored Cambria and Apple renders, obscure the forward looking cameras. Google Glass picture, which looks like a webcam on your face…

> I think it would help to not make most of the promotional material about video recording, and not make a huge camera the most visible feature.

The Snapchat glasses, as well as the Instagram/RayBan glasses don't seem to have suffered from having a prominent camera, which suggests there was a change in mass acceptance of cameras.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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The Three Trends (according to the article): 1. Medium: text -> images -> video -> 3D graphics -> VR 2. AI: time -> rank -> recommend -> generate 3. UI: click -> scroll -> tap -> swipe -> autoplay By this definition, the end of the line is a totally passive consumption of endorphin-inducing pablum that blots out the real world. (I may be exaggerating a touch.) It might stop short of a wire into the pleasure centers o…

“You only started trying it out once they moved to GANS and VR headsets. You are not pathetic or anything, could get a real girl if you wanted to. Just don't have time. Have to focus on your career for now. "Build your empire then build your family", that's your motto. You strap on the headset and see an adversarial generated girlfriend designed by world-class ML to maximize engagement. She starts off as a genericall…

sounds better than wasting your time on actual females

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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The Three Trends (according to the article): 1. Medium: text -> images -> video -> 3D graphics -> VR 2. AI: time -> rank -> recommend -> generate 3. UI: click -> scroll -> tap -> swipe -> autoplay By this definition, the end of the line is a totally passive consumption of endorphin-inducing pablum that blots out the real world. (I may be exaggerating a touch.) It might stop short of a wire into the pleasure centers o…

"Medium" and "AI" are spot-on IMO, but the "UI" track seems suspect to me. "Click" and "Tap" are essentially the same thing (on a desktop vs. on a mobile device): the user actively selecting what content to view next. So are "scroll" and "autoplay" (for text/image and video content, respectively). In the former, the user has agency over what to view, and in the latter, the transition is automated. I'm very skeptical…

> I'm very skeptical that fully automated UI will ever replace giving the user a small selection of recommended items.

The TikTok fyp is vastly better than the Instagram discover tab, which gives you a menu of videos as jumping off point before you get sucked into scrollhole. I agree about autoscroll though. Sometimes I want to watch a video like 10 times, and feel very annoyed when Instagram had the auto scroll feature. I think it's gone now. Instead it just nudges the video up with a little messages that tells me to scroll for more. I always thought that must be a first-time user tutorial, but it never stops, so either it's broken or it's broken.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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Idk how people do this, its just so boring. I tried tiktok and the first 200-300 scrolls were interesting, but then its just people regurgitating the same comedy/meme. Sure you can find a niche subject you're into like cooking, but most topics do get kind of dry after a while. I do think I'm in a minority though and know quite a few who spend hours a day on tiktok/insta.

It's enjoyable for 20 minutes a day, especially when waiting on something. The key things are: 1) time offline is on your side. you can saturate yourself with current trends that interest you pretty quickly. You need to allow actual real world time to pass for those trends to update. 2) scroll with purpose and intent. aggressively dismiss things that don't immediately get your attention from any unknown source. (Help…

One idea I had was being able to share your curated algorithm to others. ie. Your instagram explore page, or your specific tiktok recommends. People could subscribe to x person's recommends and see what they see.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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> if those societies have high mobility in real-word achievement. So, not our society right now. Our society isn't high mobility? Who has a higher mobility? (* I realise this is the internet but I'm assuming you're talking about one of the five-eyes nations)

Quick search says we're #27 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

I wasn't even aware such a metric existed. You've saved me countless frustrating conversations where I am trying to articulate something that's plain as day but difficult to find citations around (why would that be).

And #27 is worse than it sounds, because most people know there are ~200 sovereign states in the word (195 at the moment I believe), and the WEF only has data on 82 of them for this metric (I'm willing to assume that the "no data" ones wouldn't score highly in most cases). So that's "a bit better than halfway up the list", not "clearly competitive with the leaders".

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> In slots, the payout must come eventually, and playing losing rounds only brings you closer to that. Riiiigggghhhhttttt

The payout is always less than the take, but the parent is correct. In most areas (of the US at least) casino slot machines are pretty tightly regulated to have to pay out a certain percentage of the take. To give an example, slot machines in Nevada must pay out a minimum of 75% of the take. Additionally, no programming/odds updates or machine resets may be made to the slot machine until the machine has sat idle for…

I had a family friend in the 90s who had a small team of friends who would keep track of progressive slots all over America. When the jackpot got big enough that they knew they could win it by going and pumping cash into the machines non stop, they would all book tickets and just sit in casinos for sometimes days straight pumping away. This mans 9-5 job was a federal judge on the DC circuit.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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The leap from "recommending" content to "generating" content reminds me of the leap from cars that we drive on the ground and cars that fly. It seems like the future, but it's much further away than we think.

Generated content doesn't necessarily need the output to be entirely algorithmically generated. It'll probably initially use real people as meat puppets - with things like AI generated filters, scripts and prompts in order to generate content that hits the right niche, then use the recommendation algorithm as a fitness test - no need to autogenerate video content if people will do the hard bit for free.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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It's enjoyable for 20 minutes a day, especially when waiting on something. The key things are: 1) time offline is on your side. you can saturate yourself with current trends that interest you pretty quickly. You need to allow actual real world time to pass for those trends to update. 2) scroll with purpose and intent. aggressively dismiss things that don't immediately get your attention from any unknown source. (Help…

One idea I had was being able to share your curated algorithm to others. ie. Your instagram explore page, or your specific tiktok recommends. People could subscribe to x person's recommends and see what they see.

In this spirit, I think Tiktok would actually be a tremendously good matchmaker for finding either friends or romantic partners. I think a lot of their recommendation AI actually figures out what you might like ahead of actually showing it to you, by trying to sort you into a cohort of people with very similar tastes. Which is why as a new user its sometimes scary how Tiktok can almost predict what you might like. E.g. people into cars, 30-40 yrs old, rural probably also like DIY.
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