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Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Well the Web if you prefer.

They're two different things. The Internet was invented in the US. I'm European as well, but not sure why you'd need to overreach to claim we invented the Internet.

Yes we are all aware they are different things, I made a semantic leap because the terms are used interchangeably in common parlance. I should have known a technical forum would take me up on that.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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As is a fully independent EU alternative. I support reigning in the NSA, GDPR seems like a weird way to do it. I don't follow the logic.

The US Cloud act requires companies to open their platform for the intelligence agencies. We are not talking about hacking, they are required by law to provide access.

…via the judicial system (warrant or subpoena) and still protected by US law.

An EU company can just be hacked legally.

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If you're talking about linux an operating system based on unix from bell labs. then it just an operating system created by a European which is based on an operating system created by Americans. without one the other wouldn't exist.

Without beating around the bush, can you state your point please?

My point is at the end of the post. also why do you keep deleting your comments? i had such a good response to your periodic table nonsense lol.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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Without beating around the bush, can you state your point please?

My point is at the end of the post. also why do you keep deleting your comments? i had such a good response to your periodic table nonsense lol.

Here is my periodic system nonsense again: a European discovered silicon. America's not all that. Also, you seem to have a chicken and egg problem with your reasoning.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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My point is at the end of the post. also why do you keep deleting your comments? i had such a good response to your periodic table nonsense lol.

Here is my periodic system nonsense again: a European discovered silicon. America's not all that. Also, you seem to have a chicken and egg problem with your reasoning.

That wasn't your comment you said the nordic countries discovered more periodic elements the US. My response was going to be since your grouping the nordic countries the the uk and us would also have to be group because of historic relation between the uk and us specifically the us is some degree was a colony of the uk. With that being said the two combined have discovered 45 elements almost split evenly between the two in comparison to the nordics 25. Also its not a chicken and egg problem unix came to fruition without linux, but linux would never have existed without unix especially if Linus Torvalds had never came in contact with unix at university. Linus Torvalds thesis goes in detail about relation between the two.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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> Digital consumer networks were established here long before the U.S Really? In some places in Europe, people were starting to get excited about dial-up BBSes in the mid nineties, a decade after they were on their way out in North America. In 1994 I was doing contract work in Vancouver on a website with paying subscribers.

> Really? In some places in Europe, people were starting to get excited about dial-up BBSes in the mid nineties. What is your point exactly? Half of europe was still transitioning to a market economy or in a (civil) war/conflict in the 90's. I am also sure, that a lot of places in the US didn't have internet access in the 90's.

> Half of europe was still transitioning to a market economy

Sure, but not, oh, Sweden.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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All I am saying is Individuals are perfectly capable of making that decision. Whether they should store their data in Germany, California or some random Caribbean island.

And yet you claim Germany and Europe have "gone wrong" when they make exactly such a determination.

Seems like double standards. What's the difference?

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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> non-EU The problem isn't non EU services, it's the US CLOUD act Other countries have legal systems which are considered as offering equivalent protection: > The European Commission has so far recognised Andorra, Argentina, Canada (commercial organisations), Faroe Islands, Guernsey, Israel, Isle of Man, Japan, Jersey, New Zealand, Republic of Korea, Switzerland , the United Kingdom under the GDPR and the LED, and Ur…

Uruguay? I wouldn't exactly call them for known being a tech nation... So why does USA fail at this? Or are they just too big and diverse for that sort of stuff? And you can't really expect such nation to succeed... In anything...

It's not a tech issue, but a govt issue.

Look up the cloud act. It essentially makes it impossible for any US company to truly comply with GDPR.

Re: Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unlawful by German court

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I think this kind of affirms the general opinion that Germany and many traditionally powerful European countries is doing poorly when it comes to modern tech. What went wrong with Germany and Europe? They used to be the front runners in tech once upon a time.

"European countries doing poorly when it comes to modern tech" has never been an opinion. You're confused, and your petty vindictiveness is unmotivated. The EU as a space of commerce is not yours to do with as you wish. You have to follow rules and regulations just like our own companies have to. And if your country had not been engaging in espionage and sabotage then there would never have been a need for these "unf…

> You have to follow rules and regulations just like our own companies have to

Which companies? Seriously though. Is there a reason the biggest EU software companies are the likes of SAP and Capgemini, or niche players like Spotify?

I mean, I'm not talking about the USA or China, even Russia has a more impressive tech sector.

Could it have something to do with various regulations?

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> We are capable of doing that ourselves. Then do it.

You typed that silly reply on an operating system created by a European. You don't think we can host the shit out of that OS in Europe? I think you're just butt hurt because someone said something bad about the greatest country in the whole world that you know of.

Whoa - you've posted tons of flamewar comments in this thread - that's seriously not cool, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong other people are or you feel they are.

It looks like you've been breaking the site guidelines in other contexts too. Can you please review them and stick to the intended spirit here? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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