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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by iasay »

martijn_himself wrote: post #192
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #137

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Not parent and I don't have kids but if I did, there's no way I'm giving them an ipad. They can have coloring books, crayons, Legos and building blocks, doll houses, physical plastic, wooden and plush toys, restricted access to PCs/consoles, but no portable smart devices with screens, online connection and spyware apps. By kids I'm talking about pre-teens. They can get smart devices when they're teenagers.

I agree this is a good attitude and start off point for parents-to-be but I have to agree with other commenters that it is impractical and goes out the window pretty quickly unless you have nerves of steel :). Imagine for example being on a flight with a toddler throwing a tantrum, for the sake of everyone's sanity an iPad is a wonderful device. Having said that it is all about balance, and limiting screen time is a…

Some parenting advice: if your toddler loses their marbles, do not pacify them with a reward. That's a seriously bad idea.

I found the best low stress and low effort solution was to be a larger drama than they are. This culminated in myself lying on the floor in the Lakeside shopping centre in the UK screaming my head off. Oh yes I can do it too. And it makes you look like a dick when I do it. Make sure you talk to them at the same level afterwards. You are now equals :)

She never did it again after that and has been a joy. Advice has worked for other people.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by jeroenhd »

vips7L wrote: post #142
preisschild wrote: post #103

I'd just wish for an arm64 laptop that isn't made by Apple. Software development is getting more and more relevant on arm, and using native tools is way better than cross-compiling. OLED is pretty cool though.

Lenovo just launched the Thinkpad X13s with an ARM CPU. My only issue with it is that it's fanless: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/th...

Sadly, Qualcom's performance is still laughable compared to Apple's M1. You can get a Macbook air for around the same price that runs twice as fast (and probably has better speakers). If you intend to run Windows, you'll also run into slower x64 applications more often than with a Mac.

I'm really not sure what the advantage would be for picking a Qualcom processor over getting an i3 or lower end AMD APU.

Someone really needs to step up ARM processor design because no matter how much I detest Apple's business practices, I can't deny that their ARM chip is far superior to the rest of the market.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by iasay »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #190
can16358p wrote: post #172

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So... the kids will probably not have much friends as all the other kids will be socializing online even if that's inferior to physical friendship. Good or bad, that is the norm now and if you don't let your kid access to a tablet while all the other kids do, that child will be lacking a lot of confidence and practical tech skills. A balance with both iPad time and physical activity time would be a better tradeoff IM…

In Europe kids meet and play outside IRL, no need for ipads to socialize.

My kids, even the 9 year old, organise with their friends via iMessage, so YMMV on that...

Teach them it's a tool and guide them on how to use it responsibly.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by iasay »

ddalex wrote: post #189
iasay wrote: post #128

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If it breaks every month and takes them two months to repair it each time then it's a problem.

But there is no indication that it breaks every month, and there is a strong indication that it breaks less ten once every 6 years. Also there is literally no indication that it takes 2 months to repair. What I am seeing from you is just negative comments about this technology, literally based on assumption and made-up standards that are not common in the industry.

Have you dealt with an Asus RMA before? I have. I was being kind with the 2 months...

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by nvr219 »

TekMol wrote: post #10

Fold or not, what I want for a laptop is: A tablet with a matte screen. That can run Linux. So I can put it on a stand and a keyboard in front of it. That would be the ultimate travel setup! Working in cafes without having to look down all the time. Does something like this exist?

Dell XPS with Linux is great

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

iasay wrote: post #203
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #190

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In Europe kids meet and play outside IRL, no need for ipads to socialize.

My kids, even the 9 year old, organise with their friends via iMessage, so YMMV on that... Teach them it's a tool and guide them on how to use it responsibly.

>My kids, even the 9 year old, organise with their friends via iMessage

That's mostly an American thing.

>Teach them it's a tool and guide them on how to use it responsibly.

Don't know about your kids or your childhood, but I always did what was cool and not what my parents told me is responsible.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by iasay »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #206
iasay wrote: post #203

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My kids, even the 9 year old, organise with their friends via iMessage, so YMMV on that... Teach them it's a tool and guide them on how to use it responsibly.

>My kids, even the 9 year old, organise with their friends via iMessage That's mostly an American thing. >Teach them it's a tool and guide them on how to use it responsibly. Don't know about your kids or your childhood, but I always did what was cool and not what my parents told me is responsible.

I'm in Europe...

My childhood was irrelevant as was yours. Time changes.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by viraptor »

chadlavi wrote: post #191

Can't wait til everyone gets this foldable screen nonsense out of their system. It's all destined for a tech oddities display in a museum.

I think there's a good user story for it. I'm normally working at home (folded, docked), in the car/train (small laptop), or in a room away from home (full size). I don't have experience with large foldables, but I'm theory this is a perfect form for me - and I love large screens (already carrying a 15.5) I'm also likely to keep it folded at home for weeks, so the hinge durability would be less of an issue.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by [deleted] »

iasay wrote: post #129
asdajksah2123 wrote: post #96

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Apple's built up an incredible lead right now (in quality and specs), but as the son of a of a macbook from a few years ago, the idea that Apple sells "quality" is mistaken, with the most obvious example being the butterfly keyboard, which would make your device unusable if you happened to say the wrong combination of words at the wrong time. But generally Apple has a history of laptops that have design defects, whic…

Please note that my point is that they sell better quality laptops than the competitors, not the best quality they could be. Although I have precisely zero complaints with my 14" MBP.

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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by anthonypasq »

jacquesm wrote: post #123
croes wrote: post #114

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Is it really an innovation? If I look at foldable S smartphones then this is like a bigger version with an external keyboard.

Is there a similar device on the market right now? A 'bigger version' by two orders of magnitude surface wise certainly seems innovative to me, I'm not aware of another company risking their reputation on something like this at present but I'll be happy to be corrected. There was an intel proof-of-concept but I'm not aware of anything that was actually available to the public. Keep in mind that what looks trivial to…

its 100 times bigger?
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