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Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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> If yes, we've established that governments and by extension their people have some right (even responsibility) to get angry about what people do behind closed bedrooms. In these examples other people are actually negatively impacted. In the case of a couple being gay that's not the case. Perhaps if they are extremely loud about it, but this goes for all denominations. > One of the critical functions of any society,…

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Your position is that "most of the world," i.e., more than half of its 7.75 billion people, disapprove of Dobbs ? How did you come to that figure? There's no possible way that's true unless you simply decide that the opinions of non-white people don't count. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/map-a... And even that map overstates the situation, since, e.g., China's rule is essentially identical to…

I've seen your previously deleted comment.

You smell of bias when you use terms like "there's no possible way that's true" and "it's also obviously false".

No, things you disagree with cannot be "obviously false", and there are things you think are false that can actually be true.

I don't know if you're being pedantic or using straw man arguments by bringing "7.75 billion people" or introducing race into this discussion. I won't be getting into this.

I'll just elaborate and rephrase.

Yes, most of the world, where people live without oppression and tyranny, have grown up with freedom to information, are not religiously prosecuted, value other people's lives, appreciate access to healthcare and respect human rights, would oppose prosecution and criminalisation of women who want to abort their pregnancy after being raped or to stop their babies suffering and wait for them to die inside or to die on birth.

> I mean, seriously, are you saying gay people are literal terrorists?

Lol. Yes, I am saying exactly that, that gay people are literal terrorists. /s

I have no clue how you got to that conclusion and why, along with race, you're now bringing terrorists to this conversation.

> It's also obviously false that the U.S. has the world view that "detention without trial and major human right abuses" are acceptable.

Yes, it's "obviously false" that Mohamedou Ould Slahi was tortured and imprisoned for 14 years without ever being charged until his release in 2016. And it's "obviously false" CIA was looking at options of how to assassinate a journalist (Julian Assange).

It feels you view some things in black and white. The world, especially governments, are far from that. We can understand that governments (made out of people and decisions) fuck up and be patriotic at the same time.

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Do people agree that corporations should respect the customs and values of the local people when operating their business there? If yes, then Amazon is not "bowing", and it is The Guardian who is playing word games here. If not, then it would seem to imply that we are OK with western powers using their capital (instead of gunboats) to impose their ideology on other cultures in the world. Now, one may argue that the c…

> Do people agree that corporations should respect the customs and values of the local people when operating their business there?

No, definitely no. Corporations (especially american ones) know better. Corporations don't respect customs they respect growing value. /s

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> if you're going out of your way to promote an ideology/cultural value domestically (Happy Pride Month!, flags everywhere, etc) A cynic might even suspect the value signal is more about marketing than deeply held belief.

It's always pretty funny to see companies like raytheon participate in pride parades, or companies that don't give any kind of realistic maternity leave talk about roe v wade.

It's like with the priests: do what they say not what they do.

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> Earlier this month, authorities in Saudi Arabia seized rainbow-coloured toys and children’s clothing, which they claimed encourage homosexuality, according to state TV Al Ekhbariya. It said commerce ministry officials removed a range of items from shops in the capital, Riyadh, including hats, skirts, T-shirts, hair clips and pencil cases.

I swear it's always a moral panic/mass hysteria with these people when it comes to discussing controversial social issues.

They also seem to be very fixated and invested in the talking point that with the proper and right formula of marketing, you can convert straight people to gay people, or make them engage in homosexual activities which is quite absurd and ridiculous if you ask me but here we go again.

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The trend of “we’ll pay for your abortion, but won’t make it tolerable to be a working mom” is extremely gross.

I do not see why it is gross. Employees have more utility if they get an abortion and less utility if they have to spend time out for parental leave. If society wants to promote parenting, then society should pass laws about parental leave. Individual businesses have no obligation to reduce their competitiveness in the marketplace.

I think i read something like this on theonion.

Re: Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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Do people agree that corporations should respect the customs and values of the local people when operating their business there? If yes, then Amazon is not "bowing", and it is The Guardian who is playing word games here. If not, then it would seem to imply that we are OK with western powers using their capital (instead of gunboats) to impose their ideology on other cultures in the world. Now, one may argue that the c…

> Do people agree that corporations should respect the customs and values of the local people when operating their business there?

Not local customs and values but local laws and regulations in their respective jurisdiction because even in these seemingly mono-cultural places, there's still variety and diversity when it comes to traditions and conventions.

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I feel as though homophobia is never an acceptable worldview, so if you want me to reword what I said in a way that doesn’t imply that, I won’t. Some things are simply wrong. This is one of those things. If one’s worldview disagrees, then theirs is simply incorrect on this matter.

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"Homophobia is the irrational fear of failure to maintain sexually reproductive replacement in society."

No offense intended but this explanation reads like it was written by an alien who has never interacted with a human before.

People become homophobic because at formative years they imitate and internalize homophobia from role models.

Nobody is sitting around panicking about population levels.

Re: Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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As does every other corporation that puts up a rainbow lag the second its pride month. Blackrock, McDonnel Douglas and Exxon are really trying to be on the right side of history here, folks! Ask Disney if they show the same movies in China. Its all just kowtowing to the power of the Global American Empire legislated by misguided civil rights legislation, enforced by the politcommissars in HR. Every culture has a righ…

>Its all just kowtowing to the power of the Global American Empire legislated by misguided civil rights legislation I would to know more as to why you this civil rights legislation, or presumably court rulings as well, are "misguided" >Every culture has a right to protect its values. Cultures that discriminate against people for innate characteristics like sex, sexual orientation, race, etc. are backwards. Label me b…

It’s interesting because our universities have been teaching everyone that there are no universal morals. So our diplomats have no idea how to defend ideals.

Re: Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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> Earlier this month, authorities in Saudi Arabia seized rainbow-coloured toys and children’s clothing, which they claimed encourage homosexuality, according to state TV Al Ekhbariya. It said commerce ministry officials removed a range of items from shops in the capital, Riyadh, including hats, skirts, T-shirts, hair clips and pencil cases. I swear it's always a moral panic/mass hysteria with these people when it com…

can I play advocate here and say that one could interpret boycotting anything remotely connected to Russia or removal of anything confederate, cleaning up terminology like "master branches", or the hysteria calling for defunding the police as moral panic as well? not governmenral perhaps, but still moral panic.
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