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Look at national opinion polls. The US is incredibly united right now. 70% want medicare for all (53% want single payer health care). Strong majorities object to overturning Roe v Wade and rolling back gun control laws. The issue is that the senate can be filibustered with 5% of the US population's backing. A majority vote requires 8%. A fillibuster-proof majority requires 12%. This implies that it would not take man…
Which polls are you looking at? Do they have the sampling data or provide limiting factors for their assessment?
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#202But will Google - or any of the others - pledge not to support record keeping or data mining aimed at the prosecution of those who seek abortions? Any changes to their privacy rules or app store policies? While it's nice that they offer travel/relocation benefits, the cost to them is down in the noise relative to their total budgets. Turning away or alienating government (and shadow-government) customers by refusing to aid them in their march toward Gilead would show more real commitment.
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#203This is the n'th tech company today that's made an announcement similar to this. Even Disney is going to transport workers to abortion-legal states as needed as "health benefit". It's certainly a perk and good on Google for this one, but we're headed to a dark place if your best shot at human rights is to retain employment by a big tech company.
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Why do you care what some random women you've never met and will never meet do?
Why is it important to you?
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#204This is the n'th tech company today that's made an announcement similar to this. Even Disney is going to transport workers to abortion-legal states as needed as "health benefit". It's certainly a perk and good on Google for this one, but we're headed to a dark place if your best shot at human rights is to retain employment by a big tech company.
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You're suggesting we put a limit on the number of abortions someone can have? Maybe you think one is okay, but that's it.
If a woman's life is in danger from the pregnancy, how does that figure into your calculus?
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1) probably since people started carryind them inside themselves, they've had that right towards themselves 2) does it matter? 3) does it matter? 4) does that matter?
Yes it does, it’s a terrible thing to do.
We close our eyes, we don’t see it’s there, we pretend it doesn’t matter, we call it clump of cells, we call advocates ’pro choice’.
Let’s face it, it’s the killing of a human, that have no voice, no choice in the matter.
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Which polls are you looking at? Do they have the sampling data or provide limiting factors for their assessment?
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of poll numbers today without citation. To be fair, every existing poll can be safely defenestrated anyway since the SCOTUS ruling will have changed a high fraction of minds.
I linked to a comment for the medicare for all and single payer polls. They were from 2018 and 2020. The other polls have been all over the news in the last month.
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#207Isnt this contraproductive? This means less voters who may in a furure overturn this
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Google cares about attracting and retaining smart people. Smart people generally respect reproductive rights. So I guess in some ways you are correct, but not in the way your response to the person you are responding to would imply. What is interesting is that I guess the average google employee is in a good enough position in life to either afford birth control, get an abortion if they need one, or simply figure out…
The split of pro/against is really close to 50/50. If you think that the smart people are only on one side or that only one side has "good" arguments, then you are living in a bubble. The argument over abortion was going on before Roe v Wade. Roe v Wade only prevented legislation from finding a solution.
Sorry, the one who is living in a bubble is you. I wouldn't be surprised if over 80% of Google employees support abortion rights. There are many ways to show that Google employees (or generally in the tech industry) are much more liberal than the average US citizen.
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#210This is the n'th tech company today that's made an announcement similar to this. Even Disney is going to transport workers to abortion-legal states as needed as "health benefit". It's certainly a perk and good on Google for this one, but we're headed to a dark place if your best shot at human rights is to retain employment by a big tech company.
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How about a compromise: you gestate the unwanted fetuses.