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WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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I literally cannot find a way to have the app installed and not get pushes 2/3 times a day. This started a few months back - I tweeted them about it and got no response. Painful.

iOS Settings.app > NextDoor > Notifications > uncheck “Allow Notifications” ?

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#202

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Those are mild. In my nextdoor feed, there’s an elderly woman who angrily replies to every post telling them to stop emailing her. She apparently doesn’t know how to turn off notifications. People have tried to help but I guess she doesn’t read the replies either.

Why don’t you go to her house and talk to her?

Presumably she would peek out the blinds, ensure all the doors are bolted, and make a fearful post on nextdoor.

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post #126

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Why? Well, the alternative is: I never go to their stupid website. Whereas now, I go there when some entry in the daily email is interesting. And very occasionally, contribute something that entices other people to go there. Nextdoor: "Hey, how about you come here several times a day and stay, like we were a real website or something?" Me: "Nope, nope, nope. Buh bye."

Right, and I bet the experiment was to figure out how many people would notice the missing email, and either complain, or start visiting the site more often. Of course we'll never know if most people are more like you, or would actually go to the site daily, if it weren't for the email.

I don't have the app on my phone, so either (1) they didn't notice that, or (2) they wondered if losing the digest would make me install it (guess not).

I think the app is what's supposed to make their site "sticky."

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post #185
post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

> we live in an incredibly safe wealthy suburb and these people “crept” to a window This is endemic in American society now. Everywhere I lived in the suburbs/exurbs I'd describe the vast majority of my neighbors to act exactly like that. Utter sheer fear of things that simply don't exist. And they vote on those fears. I don't think American society survives the suburbs, personally. The social fabric it ripped apart,…

This is so contrary to my experiences living in suburbs/exurbs most of my life that I'm honestly not exactly sure how we came to such polar opposite beliefs.

The most alienating, dehumanizing, isolated environments I've ever lived in are large and medium cities and apartments, while the most welcoming, strong communities I've been a part of have been suburbs, exurbs and rural areas.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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post #185
post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

> we live in an incredibly safe wealthy suburb and these people “crept” to a window This is endemic in American society now. Everywhere I lived in the suburbs/exurbs I'd describe the vast majority of my neighbors to act exactly like that. Utter sheer fear of things that simply don't exist. And they vote on those fears. I don't think American society survives the suburbs, personally. The social fabric it ripped apart,…

It's this onslaught in the media of violent crime, stranger danger, drugs and gangs and immigrants everywhere. This isn't a new idea, it started decades ago.

I will mention that due to the rise of the internet and Certain Entities having an interest in making people afraid, people are exposed a lot more to things they should be afraid of. Would people have heard about e.g. a child disappearing in the next state over say 50 years ago?

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#206

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My only interaction with Nextdoor these days is @bestofnextdoor on twitter. I highly recommend this arrangement. https://twitter.com/bestofnextdoor

Those are mild. In my nextdoor feed, there’s an elderly woman who angrily replies to every post telling them to stop emailing her. She apparently doesn’t know how to turn off notifications. People have tried to help but I guess she doesn’t read the replies either.

> She apparently doesn’t know how to turn off notifications.

I mean the OP mentions 125 switches to turn off...

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#207
post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

My impression of nextdoor based on my admittedly very limited usage was that maybe 5% of people (the usual paranoid types) used it as a sort of unofficial neighborhood crime watch, and 95% of everybody else used it to share pictures of local wildlife, organize barbecues, complain about the weather, and share old people memes.

I'm sort of biased though, I find mild gossip to actually make a place feel almost "comfy" and "lived-in". It's like the vibe of a local diner or church meetup, where nothing really happens in the community so anything minor (from a new car a neighbor has parked outside their house, to the loud kids who collect sticks to pretend-fight with and store them in a pile behind the mailbox, to the "crazy" party that the young couple had in their backyard last night with half a dozen friends) is a subject of minor gossip and banter and speculation.

I honestly bet 90% of the bad rep nextdoor get is purely a generational thing because nextdoor is basically just social media for older people and young people just don't really get how old people use social media. Notwithstanding the email/notifications topic here of course.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#208
post #27

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We desperately need to overhaul how the average mail provider works. We need unique email addresses every time we sign up for an account that can then be disabled. I do this with fastmail though it's a little annoying to spend 20 seconds to create a new alias every time. At last count I had something like 470 aliases. Probably at least 40 disabled ones after receiving emails I didn't opt in for, or I disabled immedia…

If you have your own domain, Fastmail will let you set a wildcard rule and anyrandomthing@yourdomain.com will hit the mailbox, no further config necessary.

but can you then set those wildcards to bounce later?

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#209
post #58

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Can you disable an alias (i.e. drop all incoming mail to a particular address)?

Yes. Everything "just works" and it's quite easy to add block rules in the Fastmail web interface. You initially set up the wildcard alias: for any email to *@example.com, route it to me@example.com Then you can add rules to drop emails to foo@example.com, bar@example.com, .... Those work independently from the wildcard.

i guess im very pedantic - i don't want to make a rule to delete a email. i want it to bounce and never see my inbox and have the sender see that it bounced.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

#210

Patron has a similar issue. Subscribing to a creator by default opts you into all types of notifications from them, and notifications are configured on a per-creator basis with no global override. Worse, if I remember right, the page’s entire state (for all the creators) was represented in a single, slow HTTP request that was fired off when any checkbox was changed. Unchecking checkboxes quickly (faster than 1/second…

> notifications are configured on a per-creator basis with no global override. Why is this a huge problem? I am paying the individual artists, and getting communications from them individually. It's not exactly clear why the typical user would want to Patreon-ize someone and not want to see the music, art or whatever that you are paying for, but if so, you can just turn off notifications when you start following them…

It's a problem because there is no global opt-out and having to uncheck 8 checkboxes per creator is a massive pain, even more so if the page breaks when you uncheck them too quickly. I used Patreon purely to support artists and otherwise follow them on other platforms (my RSS reader) so I don't need noise in my emails.
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