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Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by PascLeRasc »

kristiandupont wrote: post #64
sph wrote: post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

Fidelity won't let me log in on Firefox. I've tried everything anyone has to suggest, and I don't care anymore because I moved to Vanguard instead.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by heresie-dabord »

hnlmorg wrote: post #45

FireFox Containers are a killer feature for me. It allows you to run sandboxed sessions. So you can ostensibly make every site a private tab by default but have a small few sites persistent. Eg I’ll have a work group with GitHub, Okta, etc in it so I only need to log in once a day. But random websites cannot track me between sites. Couple that with DNS blocking of trackers and ads, and the web is actually a lot more…

The Mozilla focus on privacy is the killer feature for me.

    DNS encrypted
    "Total Cookie Protection"
    uBlock Origin
    multi-account containers
I also like

    built-in screen capture
    *various other extensions, such as Copy All Tab URLs
I didn't find "Pocket" compelling when it was first introduced, but I have since found some of the recommendations interesting.

Bravo Mozilla!

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by Cyder »

I was using Firefox for a kiosk project and netstat/wireshark kept showing connections to Google. I tried to de-Google firefox and it wouldn't run. I was amazed Firefox is so tied to Google. It was disheartening. Ive left Firefox for Brave after being a Firefox evangelist for 15 years. Brave isn't perfect, but it doesn't hide what it really is.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by dhimes »

Kelm wrote: post #186
dhimes wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I hate that. I still have a problem seeing comments on youtube in firefox, even when I'm logged in. Not sure we're going to be able to fix if google targets their properties to only their browser, outside of a lawsuit or gov't action.

I daily drive Firefox for a few years now, including watching youtube - never faced your issue… Maybe a misbehaving extension?

Hmmm. I do have a few going. I'll have to check.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by ris58h »

guerrilla wrote: post #122
323 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is my main browser for many years now, but there are two categories of sites that I only open in Chrome: Video heavy sites, especially YouTube. It loads extremely slowly compared to Chrome. And has much more video stuttering. Probably Google is sabotaging YouTube in Firefox. Complex interactive sites, like crypto exchanges. They are slow and with many rendering artefacts in Firefox. Probably because they don'…

> Video heavy sites, especially YouTube. It loads extremely slowly compared to Chrome. And has much more video stuttering. Probably Google is sabotaging YouTube in Firefox. Hmmm... I've never had this problem and I use YouTube heavily. You sure your video acceleration and codecs and all that are set up right?

It's a known issue https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1658392 I have a laptop with Intel HD graphics and Firefox can't play fullhd video on x2 speed. It freezes every second. Chrome on the same machine plays the same video flawlessly.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by mark_l_watson »

was_a_dev wrote: post #144
andrepd wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any YouTube I watch on android I watch on NewPipe. It's amazing.

I've always stuggled with NewPipe, not because of NewPipe itself, but because YouTube and it's algorthim. People act as if the algorthim is some sort of evil entity, but my viewing habbits follow recommended videos and content aware search. I find sticking to subscriptions and trending videos to be very trapping.

The same thing annoys me. I do hit the ‘three vertical dots’ menu and select “not interested” and I think that is effective but that takes a few seconds and is a slight nuisance.

Off topic, but I have a love/hate relationship YouTube because of privacy issues, especially my political and spiritual views. Same thing with TikTok, but at least that material is mostly silly so if advertisers can buy information on which silly stuff I watch, that seems slightly less harmful than YouTube.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by hnlmorg »

dhimes wrote: post #169
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that. Every few weeks I come across a site that works better in Chrome than in FF or has some quirks (Google's spreadsheets are a good example - they feel slower in FF). Although I have no hope of changing the mindset of HNers working at Google, the rest of us could make a difference.

Yeah I hate that. I still have a problem seeing comments on youtube in firefox, even when I'm logged in. Not sure we're going to be able to fix if google targets their properties to only their browser, outside of a lawsuit or gov't action.

Can’t say I’ve have any issues with comments in YouTube. Not that I spend much time in the comments section but when I do read the comments they always work fine.

Maybe the other commenter is on to something regarding extensions. The only extensions I have are ones to simplify management of containers, plus my password manager.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by mark_l_watson »

fuckcensorship wrote: post #188
debacle wrote: post #184

The timing on this article is interesting. My Firefox just "refreshed" itself, turned Pocket back on, turned DNS over HTTPS back on, removed all of my plugins, and then somehow leaked itself up to 10gb of RAM (I'll blame Discord for that I guess). The browser ecosystem under Google's benevolent dictatorship is languishing.

I recommend checking out LibreWolf as a possible alternative: https://librewolf.net/ .

Thanks for the link! I have been using Safari on macOS and it is not so bad on privacy (please correct me on this if I am wrong) but I will try LibreWolf on my System76 Linux laptop.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by beej71 »

kristiandupont wrote: post #64
sph wrote: post #30

I honestly want to ditch Firefox and try a Chromium browser for a minute [1], but I'm stuck on Firefox because it's the only one with a killer feature: send a tab to/from iOS and my Linux desktop. I skip Chrome and Edge for privacy reasons, Brave have a crappy and buggy sync feature that I don't know what OSes it supports, but not my combination. Can't send tabs with them. Vivaldi doesn't have an iOS port. Impossible…

> I'm starting to see broken sites What are some examples of this? I keep seeing this complaint and I keep asking for examples but I always get "just various sites"-like answers. FF is my primary browser and I am not seeing it. I am genuinely curious as to whether it is starting to fall behind but I can recall maybe two or three instances the past couple of years where I opened a site in Brave to see if it worked the…

I've seen a couple pages on CNBC where it would render the content, then delete it all. (Like, the containing DOM element was made empty.)

Disabling JS kept the content from vanishing.

Of course, this is almost certainly bad coding on the website's side, and not the fault of Firefox. But it seems like it's but getting the QA attention it needs from the site owners.

Re: Reasons to ditch Chrome and use Firefox

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Post by mark_l_watson »

SMAAART wrote: post #162

Google Workspace user here, and Firefox and Google Docs/Sheets don't play well together, I've tried. Of course I'd like to find a Google Workspace replacement but I can't seem to find any so, I am married to Google.

Well, Google Workspace is the best for work environments. Every company I have worked for in the last decade uses GSuite, then Workspace. I am happy running Google’s stuff on my corporate/job laptops, and more privacy preserving options on my own systems.
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