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Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it

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Re: Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it

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> Get woke. Go broke. This has literally never actually happened to anyone. (Black Rifle Coffee just took a $4B writedown, so the opposite seems like more of a bad strategy.)

You're not actually serious? https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-examples-that-support-th...

The only examples on there are one cafe, plus crazy people trying to claim P&G and Disney are somehow failing. Looks to me like both are closer to owning the entire planet than failing at anything.

Re: Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it

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I keep hearing this $100+ argument all the time, but do you really need all the services simultaneously? As you point out, there isn't that much to watch. So just unsubscribe for a few months, let the new content build up and safe money in the meantime.

Well no, but I also don’t want to constantly be switching just to watch one or two shows. The original benefit of Netflix was that you could have a service with a decent selection, no hassle. If I click unsubscribe, that’s more or less final.

That wouldn’t work for me at all. I’ve been rotating around all the services, one at a time, since sometime last year. I quit Netflix for the first time since ~2007, last September. Nothing watchable that I hadn’t seen. I resubscribed for the last season of Ozark. When that was over, I looked around for what good stuff they’d added in the last 7 months and found squat. Promptly canceled again.

I’m fast approaching the time when I won’t be subscribed to anything most of the time, and occasionally sign up for one to watch one show.

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>The consumers just aren’t complete idiots. The consumers kinda are the idiots here. They know what they like, but they have no idea why the content is getting worse. Why shows are being pulled. Companies that had their content on Netflix realized they were facing an existential crisis. Ever played Settlers of Catan and find out another player had 9/10 victory points? Everyone does everything in their power to not tr…

While it is a valid point, Id argue that Netflix could have survived this - they had billions of dollars to create original content, and then they did create it, but some how screwed it all up. There’s at best 1 or 2 good show and no good movie Netflix has made in years. And anything half decent they cancel mercilessly without giving it a chance. This is not just in the US. The comparison of original content quality…

> 3 Adam Sandler movies for half a billion dollars?

Kind of a weird example when the adam sandler movie (uncut gems) was probably one of the few critical succeses of their recent original content.

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I think Netflix is learning a hard fact about the content business. Hits are hard . All the shows I’ve gotten into on netflix get cancelled once the cast demands to much money around season 4. This strategy makes sense if you can turn around a new hit next year to replace it, but having to deliver an exponentially growing set of hits is really hard. At this point just getting cast and crew who want to work with you i…

It's interesting that Netflix's hits seemed to come towards the start of their career producing content. If the issue is "hits are hard" then I would've expected them to struggle first.

My intuition is that it's more like statistics led Netflix to produce low quality content that performed on their target metrics. This strategy led Netflix to a local optimum that is far from a global optimum. Plus, given market conditions, that local optimum is starting to be, objectively, pretty bad.

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While it is a valid point, Id argue that Netflix could have survived this - they had billions of dollars to create original content, and then they did create it, but some how screwed it all up. There’s at best 1 or 2 good show and no good movie Netflix has made in years. And anything half decent they cancel mercilessly without giving it a chance. This is not just in the US. The comparison of original content quality…

> they had billions of dollars to create original content they had the wrong idea that original content is their strong point. It's not. It's disney's strong point. Netflix should've used their dominant position to lobby for new rules to the game - prevent exclusivity of content! They should've lobbied gov't to mandate that studio productions of content be permanently untied to a streaming service, and be available t…

I disagree - their issue was scaling it.

When they started out creating original content, they were hitting it out of the park. Orange is the new black, daredevil, house of cards were all big hits.

They scaled, quality was sacraficed for quantity, and their brand became very dilluted.

Re: Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it

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I could be in the minority, but I'm perfectly content with just having Netflix. There's a long backlog of shows that I haven't had a chance to watch, and they keep adding new ones. Sure it would be nice if I had HBO max, hulu, disney, apple, but honestly I don't think I'd have time for them. How many hours of streaming video can a person possibly watch that one would find stuff on Netflix not adequate? Or is this mor…

> is this more about keeping up with friends and families and what they watch? Yeah. I love discussing shows with friends and family and I’ve been finding it harder and harder to watch shows together or watch them later on our own time to discuss them later. For example, I recently watched Pachinko and would highly recommend it but none of my friends have Apple TV so they can’t watch it (unless they pirate it)

Apple TV+ is $5/month. People used to pay $100+/month for cable and satellite TV. If people do not want to pay, then it must not be about the money. They even have the choice of easily just paying for one streaming service per month, and not spending more than $15 per month.

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While it is a valid point, Id argue that Netflix could have survived this - they had billions of dollars to create original content, and then they did create it, but some how screwed it all up. There’s at best 1 or 2 good show and no good movie Netflix has made in years. And anything half decent they cancel mercilessly without giving it a chance. This is not just in the US. The comparison of original content quality…

> they had billions of dollars to create original content they had the wrong idea that original content is their strong point. It's not. It's disney's strong point. Netflix should've used their dominant position to lobby for new rules to the game - prevent exclusivity of content! They should've lobbied gov't to mandate that studio productions of content be permanently untied to a streaming service, and be available t…

> > they had billions of dollars to create original content

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> they had the wrong idea that original content is their strong point. It's not. It's disney's strong point.

I guess there are different people watching content. Note that I mainly talk about TV shows, as I’m not a big movie fan.

Because I hate pretty much everything Disney. MCU is low-brow humor with plot-hole riddled writing and weak characters mainly fueled by action scenes and star power. I don’t know what Star Wars is, but nothing that interests me, I don’t think I’d even have liked the original trilogy if I had been older when it came out.

Netflix, both their English original content and many foreign shows (assuming good dubbing, which usually means the actors dubbed themselves) has far better content.

Re: Netflix’s bad habits have caught up with it

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While it is a valid point, Id argue that Netflix could have survived this - they had billions of dollars to create original content, and then they did create it, but some how screwed it all up. There’s at best 1 or 2 good show and no good movie Netflix has made in years. And anything half decent they cancel mercilessly without giving it a chance. This is not just in the US. The comparison of original content quality…

> 3 Adam Sandler movies for half a billion dollars? Kind of a weird example when the adam sandler movie (uncut gems) was probably one of the few critical succeses of their recent original content.

Different things. Netflix paid Sandler $250 million in 2014 for six Sandler originals under their studio, and renewed the deal in 2017 and 2020.

Separately, Netflix just purchased streaming rights for Uncut Gems, which Sandler didn't write, from A24.

I'm assuming it's the Sandler originals that OP is referring to.

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> they had billions of dollars to create original content they had the wrong idea that original content is their strong point. It's not. It's disney's strong point. Netflix should've used their dominant position to lobby for new rules to the game - prevent exclusivity of content! They should've lobbied gov't to mandate that studio productions of content be permanently untied to a streaming service, and be available t…

> > they had billions of dollars to create original content > > they had the wrong idea that original content is their strong point. It's not. It's disney's strong point. I guess there are different people watching content. Note that I mainly talk about TV shows, as I’m not a big movie fan. Because I hate pretty much everything Disney. MCU is low-brow humor with plot-hole riddled writing and weak characters mainly fu…

> I guess there are different people watching content.

and the different groups have different sizes. Your tastes, unfortunately, belongs to the smaller of those groups, so content-wise, disney's franchised content won't appeal to you. But they do appeal to a very large group. And this large group is where the profits lie, and why netflix is not competing well in. It's the wrong game to be playing for netflix.

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People who talk about things are people who care enough to talk about it, thus companies will assume that the people who do not care enough will accept woke or non-woke content equally.
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