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Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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post #16

I think you're an above average developer working at a below average company. This could be the root of all your problems. Nothing is more frustrating than working with peers you know aren't carrying their weight. Do you want to be an engineering leader? This is what you are, regardless of your official title at your company. Engineering leaders are judged by how much better they make everyone else. You may hear the…

The pivot I have been debating is to become a Lead Development Manager with the express purpose of enabling everyone else, removing obstacles, creating better processes etc. My problem is that I love code much more than talking to people all day. I have been mentoring Jr Devs for a while now in an official capacity which helps. I like the idea of "make systemic changes to help your peers become more effective". So th…

Just move to a more intense company, or internal group, or a startup. I'm not familiar with how good you are, or your company, but I can almost guarantee there is a lot of stuff out there much more intense than the current place. And you can totally remain an IC if that's what you like.

Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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post #16

I think you're an above average developer working at a below average company. This could be the root of all your problems. Nothing is more frustrating than working with peers you know aren't carrying their weight. Do you want to be an engineering leader? This is what you are, regardless of your official title at your company. Engineering leaders are judged by how much better they make everyone else. You may hear the…

> I think you're an above average developer working at a below average company. This. I'd conjecture that this has led to OP becoming overconfident. I also think that OP should not be a manager. If one dev is doing 70% of the work then that's either bad hiring practices or micromanagement where other team members are not trusted to deliver complex projects.

Re: your second paragraph, what does that have to do with OPs ability (regardless of appropriateness to the firm, his career arch, or the story) to perform as a manager. He/she might be great, normal, or terrible. How can you tell apriori from what they wrote?

Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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How much do you get paid? If it is less than $300k/yr (assuming you're in America), then you're just in a company that doesn't apparently value tech.

Go get a job at a FANG, and I guarantee you you will be pushed to your limits, and a number of staff/senior engineers there will make you feel like a little baby developer.

Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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post #94

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I like to say I aim to be the second dumbest person in any room.

And Feynman was in the wrong room his entire life.

To his credit, it wasn’t for lack of trying. He was in a lot of pretty good rooms.

Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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post #70

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From what I've seen here: you have a family life you enjoy, at least a few competent coworkers that you are actively engaging with and learning from, you're successful and sought-after at your place of work in a field you seem to enjoy, you have a hobby that you're consistent with, you have consistent and not overly-demanding work hours, you've tried challenging yourself by changing sectors, etc. You're hitting all o…

Thanks for your perspective, and taking the time to express it. I truly appreciate it.

Yo man. It's not a secret that you feel loneliness at the top. But if that's bothering you and on top of that you are saying most if not all areas of your life are good then I have some news for you. So in general humans as a species is destined to suffering. Makin the long philosophy short, humans need to suffer to be able to enjoy happiness. From what you are sayin you live a decent life but in the back of your head there's something missing or lacking. And that's the suffering calling you to remind you that "you cant be high all the time". To help you with that personally as I've done it myself , would recommend you to go to an animal shelter as a volunteer and help one day a week. Try a homeless shelter and do the same. Try some empathy with total strangers you won't ever meet, quick example: I was waiting in the line for a cashier and had some items and saw the guy behind me had like tw or 3, probably stuff for his breakfast for work. So I said, go ahead Infront of me you'll go quicker and the guy was like if he hit the lottery that day, said thank you so many times like if I gave him a gold ounce coin or such. Makes you wonder what he's been throu. Try some martial arts but maybe not to get serious hurt but to remind yourself that you are a simple mortal being. I recently try humility with strangers, kinda like one year ago or more I was angry at myself and everyone else, now I do a step back and do stuff more calmly,say more times a day, thank you, sorry, please. Etc. Hope I don't wrote too much and you get the point I'm trying to say. Be gratefull for what you have and try experience some suffering from various sources to remind yourself that you are just a collection of a few atoms and a few lucky situations in the vast galaxy. Did you see the butterfly effect movie? Cheers take care.

Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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post #21

“If you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room.” I know saying this is easier than doing it, but; seek upward movement until you no longer feel like you're the smartest person in the room. I would also add, although it's purely personal opinion, that seeking a solution to loneliness through work is a surefire way to feel more lonely. You say you're big on self-improvement, but are you only focus…

I've thought about this. I actually do not think I'm the smartest person in the room, hell two of the people in my direct team are definitely smarter than me. I think I have really good systems that allow me to consistently solve problems and write code. On the loneliness front, I meant in the scope of working. I have four kids, I am everything BUT lonely with them. However, I do agree that aside from work and one of…

> I've debated working one hour less than I'm supposed to just so that I can exercise daily, but I find myself worrying that without me things will fall apart.

So be it. This may be harmful to your team/company in the short term but it will make it clear that there is a gap in output and productivity within the team that must be addressed. Go lift heavy weights (im talking about iron).

Re: Tell HN: The loneliness of a pretty good developer

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I don’t understand how you see any kind of causality between being good and being lonely.

I worked with tons of people, some more talented, some less talented, I never felt like not connecting with people less able than me. And I don’t think people more talented than me felt lonely at all.

Keep the coding going and work on being friendly and fun and helpful. That kind of stuff.

Oh and please don’t call yourself 10x. You’re losing a lot of sympathy in that first sentence.

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