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Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives

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Re: Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives

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Grown cats don't meow to each other. It's a noise they make to get our attention. Each cat must figure out, on their own, that meowing works to get humans' attention. A cat with deaf human parents would have never learned this, or would have learned that meowing doesn't work and to try something else.

Cats definitely meow to each other. For adults it's typically an aggressive warning, but it happens. It's also worth noting that kittens and their mothers communicate heavily via meows even when no humans are present. Food-begging is a pretty straightforward association from there.

Cats don't meow as a threat. They growl. The varying tones and pitches in which they do so carry information of their own, and sometimes are in similar ranges to a meow. But listen closely to the timbre and intonation next time you find the chance, and you'll probably find yourself able to notice how similar the two sounds are not - not least in that a growl carries much more information.

You're right that meows are by default how cats talk with their kittens. They also bring kittens dead or nearly dead prey, as the first step in teaching them how to hunt. That they choose to use the same idioms with us I think constitutes an eloquent comment on how clever they find us.

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I found a book entitled "Electronics for Cats" stuffed under The Cat's bed. Should I be concerned?

Nah, not till you find your favorite iron there too.

My guy never quite got the hang of the temperature control, always cooked the hell out of my tips. (That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it...) But I do have to give him that his joints were usually better than mine.

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Animals are so smart. Has anyone seen brain scan studies to see what’s going on cognitively? Would be interesting to see what parts of the brain light up, plus if that’s different in house vs feral cats.

Good luck getting cats to put up with an fMRI! Closing a $100M seed round would be a piece of cake by comparison.

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Many species are more social and cooperative that people think. I wonder if seeing nature as more ferocious, competitive and individualistic that it really is comes from psychological projection.

I recommend Kropotkin's book about Mutual Aid regarding this topic. Disregarding his obvious political affiliation he is one of the first critics of the then-emerging social-darwinist readings of animal behaviour with regards to Evolution and therefore deals with this topic quite extensively. He was a zoologist apart from all the other topics he had time to deal in because of his noble heritage. Here is the wikipedia…

That'd make him one of the last of the old-line ethologists, before the dark interregnum of the behaviorist scum began - I respect Kropotkin considerably more now than I did five minutes ago. Perhaps I'll read him after all.

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Cats destroy the assumption that animals should do what we tell them to, because that's how it works. Of course they have agency and their own goals. It's fascinating that humans are surprised and sometimes baffled by this.

Humans are regularly surprised to discover that the preponderance of evidence strongly suggests the universe was not created exclusively for themselves.

Who believes that?

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I have 7 cats now and have had had 15 cats in my life. My whole extended family has always had lots of cats. Two things stick out at me: 1) Cats really do respond to being talked to and interacted with. Cats that are talked to often get more responsive and communicative. 2) There is huge genetic IQ gaps, lol. Some cats are so smart they blow your mind, others are mouth breathers. The normal distribution is real.

"There is huge genetic IQ gaps, lol. Some cats are so smart they blow your mind, others are mouth breathers. The normal distribution is real." I'm very curious about how well someone with a "lot of experience in digital advertising" is positioned to define "genetic IQ gaps", "smart", etc. as it applies to cats & others. Perhaps instead of throwing these terms around like they're candy, you should submit your findings…

This isn’t what hackernews is about. I’m quite shocked at this post.

Re: Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives

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I have tried to train my two cats with just these words: 1. "Let's go" - morning meal 2. "Upstairs" - I am going to bed 3. "Dinner" (plus clink bowls together) - evening meal 4. "Lie Down" and their names. Emerald, who prefers being upstairs, definitely responds to "Upstairs": she charges upstairs when I say it. Jade remains enigmatic and skeptical: that seems to be her nature. But if she is in the mood for a tummy r…

We trained our cat from a very young age, and used it as a routine for getting treats or food. The cat is able to do the following: - sit - spin (rotate in a circle) - "up up" to stand on their feet, tapping my finger with the paws - "high five" and "low five" - "platz" to lay down on all fours - "come on" to follow around - "nom nom" to signal whether or not it wants food. You can see the eyes getting big immediatel…

Oh, I forgot to add that I think that cats only hear different pitches and aren't able to differentiate consonants from vocal sounds and/or their meaning.

A couple times I did the morning food routine while brushing my teeth (when I was in a hurry) and I was only humming the words while my cat was perfectly able to understand what I want from it.

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> For me, the great charm of cats is that it is impossible to tell the difference between "No, I don't understand you." and "I understand you perfectly well, but I plan to ignore you completely until I feel like responding". Incidentally, this is why I dislike cats so much and prefer dogs :)

I love how dog people feel the need to talk about how much they hate cats at every turn but cat people kind of like all animals

It's similar to smartphones. Android users express hate for iPhones and Apple way more than the reverse. Also I'd bet there's a correlation between smartphone brand and animal preference, with Android users preferring dogs and iPhone users preferring cats.

Re: Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives

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I have tried to train my two cats with just these words: 1. "Let's go" - morning meal 2. "Upstairs" - I am going to bed 3. "Dinner" (plus clink bowls together) - evening meal 4. "Lie Down" and their names. Emerald, who prefers being upstairs, definitely responds to "Upstairs": she charges upstairs when I say it. Jade remains enigmatic and skeptical: that seems to be her nature. But if she is in the mood for a tummy r…

I've learned that dogs will "say" no. Cats "say" no by ignoring, which we often misinterpret as that they do not understand

Re: Cats learn the names of their friend cats in their daily lives

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My cat and I have one firm English phrase: "3...2...1". I say that whenever I want him to make up his mind, and at the end I always close the door, pull the sweater from under him, or whatever. He definitely knows what it means, and knows I mean it. > between "No, I don't understand you." and "I understand you perfectly well, but [nothing in my nature compels me to care]". This is where he and I are for lots of other…

As a parent, this works well with toddlers too. When you start counting they know a storm is coming and they can avoid it if they choose their next answer/action carefully...

"I don't want to have to count" I said to my son the other day, whence he scurried
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