PSA, uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock (blocks in-video ads by automatically skipping them via crowdsourced timestamps) exist, as do Vanced for Android (until it dies, could also use NewPipe, a fork with SponsorBlock is available) and SmartTubeNext for Android-based TVs.
Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
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Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's clearly a different kind of thing though. Sponsored content in videos is just stuff you don't like, but it's still the video you clicked on. Youtube injected ads on top of the video is not the content you clicked on. Youtube premium unambiguously solves the problem that the top-level comment was complaining about (mid-roll ads that can be a half-hour or longer), you're just moving the goal posts.
No, no, no, this is letting YouTube off the hook. The whole reason content creators started doing in-video promotions is because YT kept squeezing them for ad revenue. The top comment is absolutely correct - adfree should be adfree - that is YouTube’s problem to solve, not the customer’s.
Would you rather Google police content and not allow native ads that the content producer includes?
Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#203People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
And all reports are that YouTube is still barely break even…
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#204You could tell them to 'fuck off' with this extension fuckoff.yt
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#205I think the biggest dark pattern is allowing skipable ads to be long. Sometimes over an hour. I spent some time in the hospital not too long ago, and it was physically painful for me to move enough to skip an ad. I would have been fine watching 30-60 second ads without skipping, but they just put infomercials in the middle of the video you're watching. it is outrageous.
And you never once considered going premium to remove the ads? Surely someone must have been able to help you out with that if you couldn’t do it yourself? The answer exists, it’s right there with buttons for clicking given to you by Google, but people here on HN so often seem so entirely blindsided and insist there’s no such thing as ad-free Youtube. What gives? I just don't get it.
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Re: Dark pattern: how YouTube makes sure you don’t always “skip ad”
#206People complain a lot about Youtube ads and how awful they are but as a thought experiment I once tried to imagine the amount of storage and bandwidth Youtube must need everyday to operate. So after some basic research it looks like they need to add almost 1 petabytes of storage and I couldn't find much info on the bandwidth and servers it uses. As much as I don't like Google for their shady business practices, I cou…
I do wonder whether another approach would be starting to delete old videos with not many clicks unless you pay. This would seem to reduce storage bandwidth but I suppose they still have to support the insane amount of uploads! Another thing would be if you upload stupid crap that no-one wants to watch, you get banned or sent a nasty letter or something...I don't know, I don't work in customer retention ;-)
Storage is cheap at scale. Bandwidth isn’t.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who gets to decide what is an "insane" profit? You?
Regulators. And since the US seems to have abrogated those responsibilities they are falling to the EU.
So you want regulators to decide how much of a profit corporations should have for a non essential service like watching videos?
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#208Just gonna leave this link to ublock origin here. If nothing else, install it as a small "fuck you" to dark patterns: Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin... Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpa...
How can I adblock on my nvidia shield tv? I hate youtube ads. So much that I switched from iOS to Google Pixel just to be able to install vanced.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google might. But does YouTube? Should other Google properties subsidize YouTube if it doesn't generate "insane profits" by whatever metric you're using that word?
YouTube is the largest social media site (or at least was a couple of years ago.) Google gets a lot more value than just cash out of it, otherwise they’d have shut it down.
What value does Google get out of YouTube besides the minuscule profit?
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, no, no, this is letting YouTube off the hook. The whole reason content creators started doing in-video promotions is because YT kept squeezing them for ad revenue. The top comment is absolutely correct - adfree should be adfree - that is YouTube’s problem to solve, not the customer’s.
Would you rather Google police content and not allow native ads that the content producer includes?
I'd be fine with it personally, but I think that'd be a really silly way to go about it. They could provide advertiser tools to the content providers that respect premium accounts. Not super hard, but here's the catch, and oooh baby is it a doozy - they have to pay fair rates for advertising. I know that's going to be hard to stomach, but if they do pay fairly, I suspect most content producers would be happier with that arrangement.