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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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This is the kind of surgery I might expect someone who is closer to 5 feet might use to get nearer to normal range. I'm pretty much average myself (71 inches) and I wouldn't look at a 67 inch tall guy and think "wow he's short." He's still taller than the vast majority of women. I think the money would be better spent on therapy if it really is that depressing to be 5'7". Also, anybody making short jokes is a jerk an…

They’re burying the lede on this story. This guy runs an OnlyFans where he gets paid to dominate other men. He psychologically wants to be taller because he doesn’t feel like his (completely unremarkable) height is appropriately dominating.

You're reversing cause and effect:

>Scott first heard about the procedure when he was in high school. He watched a few YouTube clips about it but dismissed it at the time. “I was like, ‘That’s sick, I would never do that.” But he kept researching, and about three years ago, he became convinced it was the solution he was looking for. “I felt miserable,” he said. “There were things throughout my day, every day, that would bother me. I felt attacked or unfairly criticized due to my height.” Then he had a revelation: “When I realized what was really holding me back was the obstacle of money, I was like, ‘Oh, it’s just a game. If I can get $75,000, then I’m done feeling like this.’”

>The goal gave him clarity. “I was not waking up and crying every day in my mask, walking around the neighborhood. Instead, it became ‘OK, I just have to get on my grind and figure out how to get the money.’” So Scott, who is bi, got to work and, in February 2021, started an OnlyFans page. Within a few months on the platform, he zeroed in on a niche: financial domination, a form of humiliation kink where clients pay him to degrade them and take their money. By January 2022, by supplementing his OnlyFans earnings with some of his savings and a small loan, he had enough to pay for the procedure.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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I hate, absolutely hate, that men have to worry so much about something they can't control. My best friend is below average height, and god bless him he never let that stop him from getting women, but I've seen him made fun of for it over and over from other "friends" for years. I call it out nowadays but didn't have the chutzpah to do it when we were in high school. It makes my blood boil so much that people will be quick to judge someone so much for their height - this friend is literally the nicest person I know. Would people mock others for disabilities, skin-color, facial structure, weight, chest-size, etc. as openly as they mock men's height, society would look very different.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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post #108

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Yep. Nobody wants to talk about it, but the amount of abuse that is directed from otherwise-socially-conscious women towards short men is pretty disgusting. It's extremely common for groups of women to laugh at and deride short men, both online and publicly in real life. It's eye-opening. (And before you ask, no I am not short, I've just witnessed the abuse first hand).

I'm 5'5" and 120 lbs and that hasn't been my experience. My past promiscuity is the butt of jokes far more often than my stature.

Personally, the short men I know still get play. Women have a wide variety of tastes, as do men; and the taste really just needs to be tried once to get a probability for it to stick.

That said, women being callous and cruel in groups about height, fitness, etc is more congruent to locker room talk. You probably won't hear it because it's behind your back and usually not by people you know. I say that as having been witness to this kind of private talk before.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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I really hate the idea that people dealing with actual problems with objective evidence of being real problems should go to therapy at substantial cost to have somebody gaslight them into believing that their real problems don't matter. Sure somebody could have delusional views of how much their height matters, and such people could consider therapy, but I'd reckon most people glum about their height have a pretty ob…

> I really hate the idea that people dealing with actual problems with objective evidence of being real problems That's my point. If you're 25th percentile in height, you don't have an actual height problem. Treat the depression.

I would potentially agree, but how many of these people are 75th percentile (I assume that's what you meant) in height in their city? Global or national averages are pretty irrelevant for them.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Everything we are judged on - appearance, intelligence, earning potential - is a random dice roll of DNA that none of us control. Yet people take credit (pride or shame) for these traits. Pondering this has left me more detached and unimpressed with the human society game and competition... but what else is there? What am "I", if anything, beyond the randomly assigned DNA-based traits?

The same random DNA lottery applies to women. I think the difference is the normalization of cruelty and inefficiencies in the dating market. I think a lot of women end up deeply unhappy but by the time they’re that age they’re largely ignored.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#206

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

Yeah ngl I wish people would move on from denigrating people on factors like appearance, poverty, disability, etc. and more on things like being inauthentic, unempathetic, manipulative, etc.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#207
post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

Plenty of women don't care about that.

Just stop using apps like Tinder, they attract the worst of the worst, by what I see, especially in the US. Even if you were above 6', you wouldn't want to date a woman obsessed with height.

In my group of friends, the shorter ones (around 1,73m) are the most successful ones.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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post #163

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

Yes and no. It's complicated. Mate selection is not and should not be institutionalized which means that you are within your rights to discriminate on...anything. Your criteria may be based on "taste", past experiences or downright prejudice. It is inevitable that as you pick a mate, you discriminate. You can't stop that nor should you. We can however openly discuss criteria that are unhealthy, perverted, make no sen…

I don't know if that's the issue people are bringing. I think people are talking about the active derogatory and communicated bias towards shorter men.

Not being attracted to short men and not wanting to reproduce with them is a personal thing. But going on record ridiculing them, saying bad things about them, mocking their height, that's not okay, and it's true that if it was done about their race it would be frowned upon, but seems to be acceptable for height.

I think that's a fair issue to bring up.

It also seems there might be real measurable pay-gaps, and that might need addressing as well.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#209
post #175

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That's just untrue. The claim is that there is "really no difference" between discriminating against Blacks and short people. There are several important differences, and they relate directly to the historical treatment of Black people. You are arguing in bad faith, just like the OP.

There is no difference in the comparison because they're both based on immutable physical characteristics. There's a difference in the historical context, which you highlight.

This does not follow. There is a difference in historical context, which has a bearing on the real-world effects of height-vs-race discrimination, ergo there are differences between the two.

In exactly the same way: Abraham Lincoln and Pol Pot are both heads of state, but it is incorrect to say there are no differences between them.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

#210
Was the stigma against short men a thing before online dating where everyone had to post their heights publicly?

I remember in my teens/early 20s - before dating apps were a thing - having several much shorter friends than me that were much more popular with the ladies.

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