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Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Post by tomjen3 »

dmm wrote: post #196
tomjen3 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And he would have been if social conservatives hadn't destroyed him. god damn I fucking hate them.

Turing's destruction is more complicated than just prosecution by conservatives. He had access to extremely secure information over a period of years, this is what drew attention to his homosexuality. When someone gets a security clearance, what do you think is looked for? Not many spies or people who eventually divulge information to an enemy country have explicit ties, eg. they aren't a member of a communist party.…

The reason they could blackmail those people was that those in charge had made homosexuality illegal. None these defections had to happen and nobody seems to think Turing was embaressed about his homosexuality, so if it is not illegal what would there be to blackmail him about?

And what happened wasn't terrible. Losing your best friend to cancer is terrible. Accidents are terrible. This was entirely done by monsters (they may be of the species homo sapiens but they aren't human) and it was a monstrous crime.

Edit: sorry, that is the last time I will write hn comments from my phone

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Post by baabuu »

RIP Dennis.

I was an uninterested Computer science student bored with writing stupid BASIC programs. Then I got introduced to C which made me realize what studying computers is all about. Then I got to know Unix and Linux. I still remember the day I got my Unix login. I was the first student to get one! My college projects (Linux clusters, routers), my geek friends, my first job and my professional life - all got started by learning C & Unix in a remote university lab thousands of miles away. I'm sure this is a story shared by millions. Thanks dmr! You are a legend!

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Post by dmm »

tomjen3 wrote: post #201
dmm wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turing's destruction is more complicated than just prosecution by conservatives. He had access to extremely secure information over a period of years, this is what drew attention to his homosexuality. When someone gets a security clearance, what do you think is looked for? Not many spies or people who eventually divulge information to an enemy country have explicit ties, eg. they aren't a member of a communist party.…

The reason they could blackmail those people was that those in charge had made homosexuality illegal. None these defections had to happen and nobody seems to think Turing was embaressed about his homosexuality, so if it is not illegal what would there be to blackmail him about? And what happened wasn't terrible. Losing your best friend to cancer is terrible. Accidents are terrible. This was entirely done by monsters…

> done by monsters

If you believe that every despicable act in that past was done by monsters then you will waste your time looking for monsters. Instead you should be looking for human beings, who always have justifications, they are the ones who will be doing the despicable acts of the future.

You absolute ignorance of the events you are ranting about does everyone a disservice.

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Post by msteinert »

m0nastic wrote: post #59
goodnight wrote: post #36

RIP Dennis. Now that's a guy worth mourning about. I'll check CNN and the BBC to see their special reports, surely if they had them when some marketing CEO kicked the bucket they'll give at least ten times the amount of coverage to a man who was 100 times his better!

In the realm of news, almost no one knows who Dennis Ritchie was. You can lament that fact (obviously, to anyone even remotely related to computing he was a figure of paramount importance), but it's ridiculous to expect the mainstream press to understand that importance. Analogies are tenuous, but when Michael Jackson died, it was obviously big news. It was all over television. Nobody reported when Ross Snyder‡ died,…

> In the realm of news, almost no one knows who Dennis Ritchie was.

I can attest to this. Here at work we work almost exclusively in C (embedded devices) and my boss had no idea who Dennis Ritchie is.

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Post by chugger »

BasDirks wrote: post #106
sid0 wrote: post #100

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let's not compare both. Ah yes, the cognitive dissonance of an Apple fanboy developer who knows that C is far more important than anything SJ ever did yet can't reconcile that with their belief that SJ was god. Shame on Hacker News's audience that the front page isn't filled up with Dennis stories right now.

Your comment reeks of fanboyism much more. Don't litter the frontpage posts on our heroes with bitter comments please.

I love dmr. nobody's questioning dmr's contributions to computer science and technology. I love them both.

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Post by chugger »

sid0 wrote: post #100
chugger wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DMR created. SJ inspired. let's not compare both.

let's not compare both. Ah yes, the cognitive dissonance of an Apple fanboy developer who knows that C is far more important than anything SJ ever did yet can't reconcile that with their belief that SJ was god. Shame on Hacker News's audience that the front page isn't filled up with Dennis stories right now.

I am one of the biggest dmr and ken fans in the world.

dmr and ken are definitely the pioneers, they're like elvis and jerry lee lewis.

sj is bob dylan (inspirational)

larry page and sergey brin are milli vannili (one hit wonder copy cats)

and bill g is linkin park (he just plain sucks)

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