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Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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The title of this should be changed to the title of the article, "Elon Musk Makes $43 Billion Unsolicited Bid to Take Twitter Private". The current title given here implies that Musk is likely to take over Twitter, which doesn't seem true after reading the article (which includes a quote about the proposed price being too low to be taken seriously).

I'd suggest instead that the submission should be changed to point to Elon's actual official offer statement:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001418091/000110465...

We don't need Bloomberg's analysis/interpretation, we can do that here.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like). Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe e…

It is bizarre in the US that people don't really think about it being the first thing amended to our constitution.

As if that was just random ordering and not a statement in and of itself.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like). Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe e…

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Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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post #58

> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial I don't think we have evidence to support this. Pursuant to the last major thread on the topic, I was thinking further about it, and realized that the vast majority of progress civilization has made has been under conditions much more regulated in terms of which ideas may propagate. We've never had a situation where fake news can and does spread the way it does t…

> the vast majority of progress civilization has made has been under conditions much more regulated in terms of who can have sex with whom

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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post #191

Why is the market cap of Twitter so low (not even 10% of fb)?

Facebook has two social media applications, one chat product, Oculus etc. They are more diversified than Twitter.

Also, the simple reason is profit. Unlike Twitter, FB makes very high profits on 25x revenue of Twitter

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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As a fan of Musk and his companies, I personally hope this fails. He's already busy enough running SpaceX and Tesla which matter significantly more to the future of humanity than a website that lets people type 280 characters.

Social media has value to humanity.

Long after people land on Mars and spread to the farthest reaches of the solar system, humans will still be social creatures, and thus there will be social media.

All of mankind’s achievements and technological advancements eventually culminate in more social media.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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post #126

As somebody from the first world who has had the experience of moderating Internet forums… free speech in the sense of “the government generally shouldn’t control people’s speech, with limited exceptions” is good and necessary. Free speech in the sense of “everybody should be forced to platform every idea” is silly IMO. Left alone user content rapidly devolves into the most low-effort salient content - flame wars, po…

What if ISPs start really inspecting your traffic and then ban you when you start visiting certain sites they don't like? You going to say the same thing then especially when how ingrained the Internet has become in everyday life?

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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post #126

As somebody from the first world who has had the experience of moderating Internet forums… free speech in the sense of “the government generally shouldn’t control people’s speech, with limited exceptions” is good and necessary. Free speech in the sense of “everybody should be forced to platform every idea” is silly IMO. Left alone user content rapidly devolves into the most low-effort salient content - flame wars, po…

>free speech in the sense of “everybody should be forced to platform every idea” is silly IMO.

That's a red-herring. The debate isn't really about free speech rights on a private platform. 'Web-scale' platforms will always need a certain level of moderation. This debate is really about the who is within the Overton window and who isn't. Conservatives and certain parts of the Progressive Left want to be within this Overton window, while mainstream Democrats want to keep them out.

Having said that, there is a related matter of government's indirect incursion into moderation policies of private social media companies, by way of use of executive and legislative threats, and what that actually means for constitutionally protected speech. Right now that part is ignored by the supporters of one political party because it serves their political goals.

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