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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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The ideas have to be out there or they'll never get traction. We have major influence recently. The path of the world was changed dramatically with the election of Biden over Trump. I can't imagine how emboldened Putin would be had Trump won. I realize others say everyone was scared of the rich man's son, but I don't see it. He withheld 400 million in military aid from Ukraine, says it all as far as the path we'd be down.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Honest answer :) Because I do not condone that move. It will be difficult because I have been using Firefox for years and tried to avoid anything Chrome-based and I am not very happy with Google's Manifest v3 approach, but Mozilla just crossed a red line for me.

Can't you just manually put yandex search in? Seems like an odd place to be putting a red line.

Yes but they keep doing these "small" things, that individually don't cross any lines but do add up over time.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Can you explain why you feel that way?

Search results aren't that good anymore and Google consistently shovels woke crap down my throat anytime I search for anything more controversial than pizza toppings.

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Throwaway for obvious reasons. This is hypocrisy of Western democracy. I can't recall when Google was removed after US invaded so many countries. Why do Western companies oppress free speech when it doesn't match their narrative (Julian Assange, now Russian media)? Why not give Russian "propaganda" tell its narratives and let people decide? Are you afraid of their truth/"truth" or are you afraid people will follow th…

In general, it sounds like you're suggesting that if everyone can't be punished for doing something bad, no one should be. I'm not sure that logic would really fly with other situations. Ex. A murderer was able to flee to a country without an extradition treaty, so punishing Jeffrey Dahmer would be hypocritical. The US being less likely to do things like, you know, lie about biological weapons as a pretense for an in…

> In general, it sounds like you're suggesting that if everyone can't be punished for doing something bad, no one should be

I am not saying this, I am saying we shouldn't be politicizing software and punish ordinary people. I know Ukrainians are suffering and suffering of Russians at this moment is very small compared to them, but this doesn't mean we should make them suffer even more. Do you think Russians will like these actions? No, I think their hate will increase and they would support Putin even more.

> That it didn't happen then doesn't mean it shouldn't happen next time. Or now, in the case of Russia re: Ukraine.

Somehow I am pretty sure if US invades any other country now, there would be another excuse and no sanctions at all. I don't hold knowledge of the future, but past events are super clear what would happen. Iraq, Libya, ....

Also why not same support for Palestinian people? do you think they are terrorists? I mean 100% of them? Do you think Palestine has power to withstand Israeli attacks or similar military capacity? Why West not sanctioning Israel, which is happening now?

Not saying we shouldn't support Ukraine, what I am saying is we should equally support everyone who is suffering. And we shouldn't make people suffer even more.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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post #162

Throwaway for obvious reasons. This is hypocrisy of Western democracy. I can't recall when Google was removed after US invaded so many countries. Why do Western companies oppress free speech when it doesn't match their narrative (Julian Assange, now Russian media)? Why not give Russian "propaganda" tell its narratives and let people decide? Are you afraid of their truth/"truth" or are you afraid people will follow th…

I think there are a lot of moral compromises, contradictions, and hypocrisy as you outline. However, the alternative to throwing everything non-violent at Russia, is actual military intervention. Essentially, very high risk of real WW3. The Iraq invasion was a huge mistake. Russia's invading Ukraine is a huge mistake. Generally, war is a huge mistake. If there is anything non-violent left to try, I can't blame anybod…

> Generally, war is a huge mistake.

100% agree with you! Now our politicians made this mess, we shouldn't make it even messier by making people suffer

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Have been a strong(!) advocate for Firefox for years. Now it is time to switch. Not sure where to yet, Chrome is not any better, Palemoon is not exactly well supported. Maybe Brave, Vivaldi, or Opera, though they are all Chrome-based as well. Difficult decision and not very happy about it, as I do think we need more than just one browser engine, but I can't support Mozilla any more.

Why? Honest question.

why else, they're Russian and sympathize with Putin prolly

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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That's the thing. Even if we were to suggest that the parent's ideas had merit (big "if"), it's pretty laughable to think that the US is capable of doing this properly. Looking back, it's hard to find American successes in this sort of meddling, all the way back to WWII.

True, and the US didn’t even properly defeat the Nazis (see, for instance: Adolf Heusinger, Operation Paperclip, and the many Nazis who happened to find themselves in positions of power in West Germany).

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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Doesn’t anybody else see how the massive fist waving censorship of Russian businesses (which by the way may not endorse the war in Ukraine) is hypocritical to the entire point of the internet and free speech?

I’ve been saying it, and I’ll repeat it again. Since when did liberals lose the ideology of free thinking and speech and go on a quest of cancel everything that may not fit squarely and neatly in their world. It wreaks of elitism.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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post #162

Throwaway for obvious reasons. This is hypocrisy of Western democracy. I can't recall when Google was removed after US invaded so many countries. Why do Western companies oppress free speech when it doesn't match their narrative (Julian Assange, now Russian media)? Why not give Russian "propaganda" tell its narratives and let people decide? Are you afraid of their truth/"truth" or are you afraid people will follow th…

Well said. We here in the west have to stop pretending we are at the absolute center of truth and justice, and stop silencing all the sensible voices that try to bring attention to our own hypocrisy.

I fail to see "sensible voices" in advocating a completely unprovoked mass murder of civilians.
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