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I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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No description of lifestyle or diet before cancer in the text.

You can find it elsewhere. It’s likely to be good, considering they seem well-informed and wealthy enough to take advantage of that information. In any case, here we go: (the husband, but likely also the wife) > Nithin starts off his day with coffee just before his workout, and then has oats and whey protein. Then for his breakfast he has egg whites and vegetables with the water of a tender coconut. Around noon, he h…

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Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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> "All the money in the world can’t buy you perfect health, and it is crazy how many just ignore it. Small changes to diet and physical activity can go a long way in improving health." This is so confusing for me, with the sense of helplessness, so she saying small change to diet or physical activity, and that she was healthiest person in world but still got sick, so what is the point than ?! I mean you can do everyt…

The point is that you have a lot of influence over outcomes. There are mountains of evidence to support that fact, with comparatively easy and accessible interventions ranging from abstaining from smoking, to eating healthy food, to getting exercise. As with everything else in life, though, what you are doing by living healthily is turning the probabilities in your favor. That means that someone with unlucky genetic predispositions, or with an undiagnosed infection/deficiency/toxin exposure etc, might develop cancer despite doing everything in their power to avoid it, while a lucky bon-vivant smoker/drinker/junk foodie might just roll those dice favorably enough times to die of other causes. The point is that you should live your life based on the expected outcome of your actions, rather than on specific example cases, which may be outliers not representative of what you might expect if you follow their lead.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Surprisingly it turns out that people get sick even though they lift weights and eat organic.

Why is that surprising? I do not understand the assumption.

People doing their regular "cardio" and eating their soya crap have the belief they are somehow never going to get ill or die. We all are, why live a dull monotonous existence only to live a few years longer in a care home not knowing who you are. I would rather live life to the max.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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This is one of the things where it matters more how healthy/unpolluted your environment is.

I'd dare to say that a not-so-phisically-active moderate-smoker living in a less polluted environment has way lower cancer risk than a bio-vegan athlete buddhist monk living in a polluted industrial hellhole.

I'd wish we lived in a world where we could actually address chemical, air-particulate +/- microplastics pollution seriously, and stuff like PFOAs that are still used round, without having it be totally overshadowed and drowned in noise by the "fight climate change" crowd or the "extinction rebellion" nutcases.

...like in, I'd rather have a petrol/gas plant to replace a local COAL power plant FAST, than a nuclear alternative that would take 20 years to get funding and have the delayed-as-usual building process finalized. And I'd rather have all the hydro and windpower we can built asap, and we can figure out later if we really care about the western-golden-lyre-bird or whatever going extinct because of dams or windmills. In the end, tbh, I've come to terms with a +5/7 C deg global warming (100y timeframe) happening, but not with me or loved ones dying 20 years earlier of cancer because of chemical and particulate air pollution or god-knows-what from the latest untested and unidentified pan or sportswear coating!

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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People do all sorts of things to "be healthy". That's great, if they are doing it to have a better life. But I get the impression some are doing it in an attempt to overcome death.

Obviously everyone dies eventually, but being healthy can literally add years to one's life, so... Yes?

A few years at most and that will be sitting in a care home with dementia. The body is very resilient so life life to the max.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Individually, a person can reduce their cancer risk with a few things like not smoking, and avoiding sunburns, etc. but that does not eliminate the risk of cancer. It's not a disease that primarily comes from unhealthy living. That said, there is a toooon of cancer that we can prevent as a society though better public health messaging and better environmental laws, such as creating housing and cities that ban cars, s…

No mention of diet although you hint at it indirectly when you say avoid subburns.

So Copper is used to make melanin the skin pigment which then converts 99.9% of UV radiation into heat. Now if the copper in your diet is going towards the melanin production there is less for Interleukin-2 which helps white blood cells become more accurate. Ironically, people eat more leafy greens (salds) during the summer months when UV levels are highest so there is a seasonal environmental element to factor in as well.

Too much copper though and it will make you paranoid (dopamine-noradrenaline), and the female oestrogen pill (oestrogen) increases or retains more copper in the body which might probably explains some young womens reports of not feeling too brilliant when young and on the pill.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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I have read a lot of comments about reducing risks, which is a reasonable and practical approach. But given than almost all of us are going to die of one health condition or another, I think it is reasonable to budget and architect our society around/against that fact. Like, having a medical research tax apart from ordinary income tax, and of course with different accounting and governance.

And it is not about funding healthcare (which is what politicians talk about in their speeches), but about funding medical research, which is a different matter altogether. A country can have universal healthcare and zero medical research, for example. Then again, I think that this distinction would be lost on most people.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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Individually, a person can reduce their cancer risk with a few things like not smoking, and avoiding sunburns, etc. but that does not eliminate the risk of cancer. It's not a disease that primarily comes from unhealthy living. That said, there is a toooon of cancer that we can prevent as a society though better public health messaging and better environmental laws, such as creating housing and cities that ban cars, s…

The author is from India. India has been experiencing a wave of changes in the face of a growing middle class. The pollution level in every major cities is just abysmal, there is very little regard for quality control - parts of India in the north are basically covered in toxic fogs for a decent part of the year. Add to that an increasing adoption of plastics, recipes involving frying oil in high temperature and western style take out meals, even the wealthy Indians are not leading as healthy of lifestyle as they might think.

Here is an anecdote - growing up we used to have local festivals in the temples where they would distribute meals in banana leaves almost exclusively in all the temples. Fast forward these have been replaced with single usage low grade plastics and cups which when served hot I honestly fear leech plastic into food. The number of cars in any metropolitan cities have exploded - older forms of transportation like rickshaws are almost gone (not that I am saying I condone the poor rickshawalas having to pull weights twice their own but just setting context). Traditional Indian meals involved less frying and using ghee, which has higher smoke temperature compared to soybean which is also very poor quality.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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post #171

In our modern societies there are lots of cancer risk involved that (most) people can not see. For example using a microwave with microscopic cracks in the glass and staying nearby. All the diesel particles and exhaust car fumes and tire dust in the cities. The terrible air quality near maritime ports because of the bad quality ships do with ultra cheap fuels. The extermination of gut microbiota with the use of pesti…

yes, people think they are living healthy lifestyle for example if you eat fish thinking it's healthy but you may not know that fish has micro plastics inside it's flesh from the polluted ocean/seas that eventually goes inside human body.

If you want to blame fish for ill health, you could do more than citing microplastics. Fish (especially in the oceans) tend to accumulate heavy metals like mercury. The risks from that are far higher than a tiny amount of microplastics.

Re: I am the healthiest person I know, and I got cancer

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This is one of the things where it matters more how healthy/unpolluted your environment is . I'd dare to say that a not-so-phisically-active moderate-smoker living in a less polluted environment has way lower cancer risk than a bio-vegan athlete buddhist monk living in a polluted industrial hellhole. I'd wish we lived in a world where we could actually address chemical, air-particulate +/- microplastics pollution ser…

Legally mandating remote work and adding public transit options and raising the cost of daily useless commute would go a veeeeeery long way. Because the petrol not burned by driving can be used to replace the coal plants.
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