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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

#201

Satya... WTF?

His nickname was 'Mr Cloud' for a good reason. Finally got what he wanted.

"Cloud" is apt, for he is the one who brings darkness...

May the fates hold off the coming of the storm.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Really, who didn't see this one coming a mile away? Or did you actually believe that MS was now some kind of benevolent open source company that meant to do right by their users?

I didn't see it coming a mile away. Satya seemed to be a major departure from Ballmer.

He is. He is PR savvy, knows how to present stuff in a way that it gets lapped up and because Ballmer sucked at this he looks so much better. But Nadella was there during all of the bad tricks that Microsoft pulled, he's as much a part of the old guard as Ballmer was.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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The only thing stopping me from using Linux at this point is piss-poor 4k support, combined with the crap market for building your own PC (thanks Bitcoin!) I just couldn't beat the m1 Air for price/performance last year.

Hmm what do you mean by piss poor 4k support? I have a 27" 4k display and so far things have been great with debian/gnome at 200% scaling. From what I can tell at least integer scaling is pretty good in most Linux desktop environments.

Gnome is the only linux desktop environment that got 4k (sort of) right. If you don't like gnome then you are on your own. I use sway/wayland for work and i3/xorg for home and I got them to work in 4k after days of customization. Wayland, X, sway, each version of gtk, qt, and various apps all have their own configuration, each which need to be configured separately, often with conflicting results, and when finally functioning, still don't work very well.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Posting someone else's single opinion to back up your own is no less anecdotal than your original post. Whilst I'm not accusing you of this specifically, I have noticed a trend toward folks being so ingrained in the 'Windows way' that anything else is broken if it doesn't act the same. I was the same way for a long time. Started using Windows in 1994 and when I found Linux for myself, I just got angry that it wasn't…

So far "Linux works well for you and countless others" but almost all these people fall under the category of IT specialists or people with a high IQ. There are many anecdotal stories how Windows doesn't work but considering a majority of organizations run Windows (and we are talking about literally hundreds of millions of users) just fine with little to no maintenance while Linux is nowhere to be seen, speaks volume…

Meanwhile, I got sick of fixing my brother's laptop and threw Ubuntu on it quite a few years back. I didn't hear from him again about it until the screen physically broke. Ubuntu "just worked" for him in ways that Windows didn't, and he's not in IT at all (he's a mechanic), and isn't very patient either.

I showed him how to install software on it through the Synaptic store or whatever it was at the time, and he just ran with it.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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May the stars, the galaxy and all forces of nature combined push me away from any Windows OS from now on and, at the same time, pull me towards Debian and its likes.

Debian is extremely opinionated. I swore them off after they made it extremely difficult for many years to install Firefox because of some ideological purity bullshit.

They insisted on being able to patch firefox. Firefox insisted if they did they couldn't legally call it firefox without being sued. In the meanwhile it was entirely possible to download an archive of the latest firefox release and drop it in a directory on your home and add its directory to PATH. It could even update itself from there if you liked.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Dialing up the annoyance level to a 11. Microsoft has spent the last 6 years or more glacially gravitating its OS-developer features towards Ubuntu. Because they couldn't do better - VSCode being the one crowning glory - and not an insignificant one. The side annoyances of a barely functional Cortana & Edge, were things I looked past, now add one more, a required account - we'll be led into unknown realms of integrat…

VSCode is great, Github only got better under Microsoft, and I'm actually one of the people who likes Teams... But even as a general fanboy (Win98 was the system that really got me into computers), it is just too much bullshit at this point. While before I had a Linux partition for specific work, and my main "digital life" on windows, I'm going to switch this around now.

And it sucks so much, there is no good reason but short-sighted greed to push for this, I'm happy to pay for a windows version I own and feel like an owner of, this kind of product just isn't developed anymore apparently.

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What a shitty thing to say to someone.

Ooops, virtue signalling gone wrong here.

What is the word for complaining about virtue signalling as a way of virtue signalling?

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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“The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally added to Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won’t be able to avoid Microsoft Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.” If I remember correctly, when you install Win11 Home, it forces you to login with a Microsoft account. But the easy workaround is to unplug the ethernet cable, windows will realize it can’t connect and the local ac…

I thought I read somewhere that they broke that workaround now.

I've encountered machines with Windows 11 preinstalled that by all appearances were not going to let you proceed with setup without connecting, but Alt-F4 would get you past that step. More recently I've seen some machines that have a "Continue with limited setup" option similar to what Win10 offered.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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I feel like I see this exact article every year or two and then it always comes out that you can easily get around this with some type of easy loophole. Of course that might still get the majority of people switching to an online account but..... if you are practically giving away an OS for free is that really so bad? Not that I am saying I support this change personally of course - I would much rather have microsoft…

I don't get why they make it so god damned difficult to get LTSC. If they just sold it openly it would be popular.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Linux never makes you do anything you don't want to do. That anyone uses anything else really surprises me.

People use windows because Windows does the things they need it to do, easily. The fact that that surprises you surprises me .

You'll be even more surprised to find out that you can do all that stuff easily without Windows!
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