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Discord is a black hole for information

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Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Discord forces you to be online or nothing. You can hide the "server" within some folder but your presence is still online. If you truely wish to depart you need to leave the server and to return isn't an easy task; as to be able to get back in to the room you need the invite link which has it's own set of caveats. At the same time people tend to think your gone for good. Unlike IRC where if you desired to step away,…

Why would you ever want to turn anything off? What if you need it? Then what if it couldn't hear that you need it? You need it to be able to hear when you need it. Don't turn things off.

I don't think I experienced this when I was younger, but, now, it feels like being "on" (e.g., on Discord, even if it's closed and sitting in the tray and I'm getting no messages) incurs some subconscious stress somehow.

I'm not getting any messages, but I could get some at any moment. And then I'd have to choose whether to respond immediately or not. And, while I'm not responding, some part of me is wondering what the message's level of urgency is.

It sucks. Exiting Discord entirely for some portion of the day when I don't feel up to being "on" literally feels like going on vacation without your phone or something. My brain can finally relax. https://youtu.be/E2-AnDdgIF4?t=17

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

>what they abusively call a "server" It's modeled off of IRC / Mumble / TS / Vent terminology. A server is home to many channels which one can join.

In IRC terminology that was a "network", not a "server"; multiple servers worked together as part of a network (which might have only had a single server in the degenerate case) to create a unified channel namespace and it didn't matter which server you used (and yes, I know that at some point server-local channels were added as a thing using ##, but despite using IRC for a quarter of a century I never once saw anyone use them except to be weird). The term "server" used in the way Discord decided to use it is awkward and even off-putting.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Discord "won me" over the voice chat. It's just so easy to use and setup for people. I know it's a hard pill to swallow on HN but NOT everyone wants and/or can run their own TS/Mumble/Ventrilo server. That's the number 1 reason Discord became popular in gaming groups. Want voice chat for your WoW raid? 2 clicks. Going to play CSOG with your friends? Here is the voice chat channel. Discord is not perfect for sure (the…

Agreed. They also do some black magic where even with my mic wide open it won’t pick up things I don’t want it to. I could eat potato chips right into the mic and it won’t turn the mic on, but as soon as I speak it does. The vox in discord always amazes me. It seems to always know what I want to transmit and what I don’t.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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It's nonfree software, so you can only assume that it's spying on you.

I don't care if Discord sees my ip/email, but I really, really don't want other users to see them.

Oh. I thought you were complaining about giving your phone number to Signal.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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You can get just as good voice chat on Signal, and it is miles easier to use than Discord, especially for people familiar with WhatsApp, Viber and other privacy invaders. And all of the screenshares and embeds that Discord gets glorified over work just as well over [matrix]

Does Signal even have some sort of channels? From their website it looks like it's just chats like iMessage/WhatsApp etc? It might be great at what it does but no Discord I'm in would work without channels.

It is exactly like WhatsApp. In fact, nowadays, WhatsApp is Signal (as in, they use the same protocol), but it's the same hierarchy: contacts + groups of contacts, and nothing else.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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What is strange about Discord is this great discrepancy between the ones that love it and the ones that hate it. If I were to guess on the reason of why that might be it would be that Discord is probably really good for the people that are constantly on it, and don't really miss any communication going in. These people have probably been there for some time so they don't feel the problem of not knowing where the past…

I've been using IRC for decades at this point and Discord is, seemingly, a modern, proprietary version of IRC so I assumed I'd feel at home the few times I've been invited to participate on it, but in practice it was an overwhelming, rather unpleasant experience and I never stuck with it. I think the main difference is that on IRC you'd usually be invited to a specific channel and you'd slowly work your way to other…

> But on Discord you're invited to what they abusively call a "server" ...

I don't know if this has changed, but they were originally called guilds.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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Discord channel sprawl is a strange phenomenon. It happens to each server I’ve joined, just gets worse over time. I think park of the issue is that you cant /part a channel in discord. Every channel you have access is automatically joined, you can’t leave and you have to adjust notifications for each to avoid an overwhelming number of messages. That and the communities are usually small-ish so you have the same peopl…

bigger communities work around this with roles to gate access, where the role is granted with bot interaction.

we could argue over what the application defaults should be, but its not unexpected the authors and users trend toward engagement being the default.

Re: Discord is a black hole for information

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I periodically see complaints like this posted here. I wonder if I am in an information bubble. Are HN readers, a more traditional forum, biased against non-traditional fora? If nothing else, it would be hard for to post a link on HN to Discord discussion about the advantages of Discord, where, presumably, such a discussion would most likely transpire.

Discord is not a forum, but an instant chat app for gamers. Using it as a forum is the problem.
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