The old word list was 2315 long. The new one is 2309. I understand why they removed some of those 6 words. The other ones I'm not sure.
Looks like someone beat me to it.
https://boingboing.net/2022/02/11/pussy-pupal-and-agora-amon...
Wordle Now Redirects to NYT
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#202Re: Wordle Now Redirects to NYT
#203You can write your own clone with grep, sh and /usr/share/dict/words.
This seems like quite a dismissive comment. I think there is a lot to be said for the presentation, polish, how easy it is to share, and the idea that everyone sees the exact same puzzle once per day, making it viral as you compete with your friends. I've never seen grep do that on its own.
https://gist.github.com/huytd/6a1a6a7b34a0d0abcac00b47e3d015...
Minus competing, setting up the script for distros would be crazily easy.
Also, for Android/iOS, generating a clone would be a matter of hours.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just as Atlassian bought Trello to hedge their dominant position in Kanban board hosting, NYT bought Wordle to hedge their dominant position as daily-word-puzzle purveyors.
Is hedge the right term, as in hedging a bet? Or are they reinforcing their dominant position?
I think hedge is the right word. NYT continuously invests in their crossword thinking there'll be a return on their investment (maybe in increased subscriptions). Investing in a line of business is basically an informed bet. NYT wants the crossword to remain dominant. They just bought Wordle on the off-chance it unseats the crossword, hence the term "hedge".
This is just speculation btw, I don't work for NYT or know the true reasons.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't really see the motivation for removing slurs, etc, from the available guess list in a game where you are the only one who sees your guesses. Good of them to take the words with unpleasant associations out of the solutions list, though.
I would be motivated to do it. If you were a happy wordle player and also have a marginalized identity, it might suck to finally get the word right and see a slur against that identity bouncing across the screen in happy green letters. Seems to me like this makes Wordle a more welcoming game.
I believe they were removed from the "valid guesses" dictionary and not the "answers" dictionary.
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It could have put up a donation page, like Wikipedia.
I don't blame the dev at all, I'd've probably taken the same deal, but an Exit To Community would have been a baller move: https://www.colorado.edu/lab/medlab/exit-to-community
Wow, I love this idea
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#207They've also removed the following from the list of words in future games wench, slave, fibre, agora, pupal, lynch And removed the following from the list of words that are accepted as guesses (in addition to the above ones): gooks, darky, pussy, spick, spics, bitch, fagot, dyked, coons, spiks, sluts, dykey, faggy, homos, chink, dykes, lesbo, kikes, whore Most of those I get, but why did fibre, agora, and pupal get p…
Agora is the leading drug Darknet Marketplace. That is surely it, it is the only (negative) connotation and incident in culture.
Maybe, but Agora was shut down in 2015.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original WORDLE also used minified JavaScript, but there are some resources on reverse engineering it, if all you're interested is learning how the words are picked [1]. [1]: https://reichel.dev/blog/reverse-engineering-wordle.html
It isn't that complex - If you compare the word list in source to the word each day, you'll see that it is just using the list in order.
Posting this in case anyone is interested, and for my own future reference:
https://hackaday.com/2022/02/08/wordle-reverse-engineering-a...
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
And added trackers and a cookie popup to it, and censored the word lists (guess and solution). And their own statement about it implied they intend to put it behind a paywall eventually (wording was something like "it will initially remain free for new and existing users").
If they want to put it behind a paywall, charge $100 a game, show Taboola links, or make people log in to a NYT account, that’s their choice. People can vote with their feet then. I just don’t get why folks are so salty. Does everyone on HN work for free?
Again with this bizarre logical nonsequiteur that because they can do something I'm not allowed to be annoyed by it. Second time in this direct chain of replies.
I don't get why people keep making this same completely nonsensical argument. Do you honestly think that whenever a company does something that they are legally permitted to do there is some obligation on everyone else to not feel any negative emotions about it? Is that how you think the world works?
I doubt you or "kertiyoowiyop" do actually think that. I suspect what's happening is that you're perfectly fine with what's happened (which is of course entirely your choice and fine with me) and you're seeing people who aren't, and because you don't share their objections you feel an urge to go around making comments to the effect of "your views are irrelevant, stop whining and deal with it", which is rude, information-free trolling.
If you think there's some actual reason I should agree with you that what the nyt's done here is fine and I have no cause to be annoyed by it then please, let's hear it. Otherwise, just accept that not everyone feels the same way as you about things.
And no, I don't work for free. I do play for free.
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#210They paid the money to own it. I am not mad about it. You can literally save the HTML and play it if you really care not to see NYT logo. This is a good story for an indie game to be honest
Surely the creator could have made more money by serving ads or something. I doubt the NYT paid them the full lifetime value of the site. And anyway, isn't the NYT supposed to be reporting news or something? Since when has the most prestigious newspaper become a hub for fooling around?
Ads would've resulted in people complaining about user experience. And no one pays a full "lifetime" for anything. For an acquisition like this it's usually a multiple of 5 years of earnings. Probably more because of the popularity.