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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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post #116

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In fact, shouldn't it be the opposite way? Imagine getting vaxxed just so you are forced to stay home or wear a mask everywhere just like everybody else.

Public health “experts” have done very little to quell fearful vaccinated people. In my opinion some of the worst anti-vaxx propaganda comes right from these health departments. If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.

> If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.

What if you have children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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As a Canadian, it's been utterly shocking to watch our country crumble in the last few years. This summer I'll be moving away for good. In the last decade I've seen most of my family leave for the US due to the higher incomes. I always kept hope that maybe Canada would get better. It hasn't, it's gotten very bad. The insane level of immigration has eroded away any leverage the working class has. Now you see all that…

I've been looking to move to Canada (vs moving to US due to more sane social services like healthcare and pension system), is what you are describing present all over Canada or just in some parts of it?

I would answer that it's centered in a few major cities. The big problem with Canada is that political power is so concentrated in Montreal, Toronto, and to a lesser extent Ottawa and Vancouver that the views of the rest of the country are ignored, so there is not really an escape. It would be like if all US government policy was set by the Bay Area and NYC

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact, shouldn't it be the opposite way? Imagine getting vaxxed just so you are forced to stay home or wear a mask everywhere just like everybody else.

Public health “experts” have done very little to quell fearful vaccinated people. In my opinion some of the worst anti-vaxx propaganda comes right from these health departments. If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.

Even if you are vaccinated you can still get sick. The chances are reduced, but you can still end up in hospital, you could still die.

If enough people still get sick at once there could still be a collapse in a local health system due to overloading.

Given the uncertainty with new variations of COVID isn't it better to err on the side of caution and try to protect both the health systems and as many people at once?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Canadian, it's been utterly shocking to watch our country crumble in the last few years. This summer I'll be moving away for good. In the last decade I've seen most of my family leave for the US due to the higher incomes. I always kept hope that maybe Canada would get better. It hasn't, it's gotten very bad. The insane level of immigration has eroded away any leverage the working class has. Now you see all that…

I've been looking to move to Canada (vs moving to US due to more sane social services like healthcare and pension system), is what you are describing present all over Canada or just in some parts of it?

Everywhere, albeit to varying levels. Canada's healthcare is a joke; it's 'free', but it's a joke. And the highest possible pension payout wouldn't pay half my rent today.

If you have the opportunity to move the US and have your employer pay for your healthcare, your quality of life and income will be much, much higher than you could ever expect in Canada. The main thing is that incomes in the US, especially for tech, are much, much higher while cost of living is lower.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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My gut feeling is that GFM wanted to keep their tips, and this was a "good" way of doing so. However it's also a little complicated since some of the money has been dispersed to the organizers (most of which went to Tamara Lich, according to the GFM page.) I guess they'll prorate the refunds or absorb the loss?

Yeah, I'm calling visa to try and do a chargeback. I expected the money to go to the cause, and not be refunded less a 'tip'.

A good cause would be a public health initiative.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Apparently Elon Musk also got involved and called GoFundMe “professional thieves”, because they were going to redirect donations intended for Canadian protesters to other (likely left leaning) causes: https://nypost.com/2022/02/05/elon-musk-gofundme-professiona... He also called out their double standard for claiming to not support protests that aren’t peaceful after they funded so many violent riots and illegal acti…

Go fund me deserves all the flak they receive. Redirecting donations intended for one cause to causes of their choosing is fraudulent. If they have an issue with a cause, which should be stipulated in their ToCs up front and not subject to inflight changes, then refund all donors to the best of their ability.

That is not what is happening though. The article says, all the money is refunded to all the donors.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

#210
post #105

I hate both the protest group and desantis but honestly he’s right. The only reason gofundme (or any org with similar practices) do this is because they know that some people will miss the deadline, and the it becomes pure profit.

Did you not read the article? There is no deadline. All donations are going to be automatically refunded.

That was not their original plan. They saw the pushback coming from many fronts.
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