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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by TOMDM »

afavour wrote: post #188

I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

I know it's a lost battle because anyone whose not a nerd will never care, but I wish we could all just call content that moves to a centralised platform like Spotify an internet talkshow or whatever and leave the word podcast to the people distributing MP3s via RSS.

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Post by commandlinefan »

echelon wrote: post #107
MBCook wrote: post #48

Spotify has played this perfectly. First they spent $100m on a very controversial figure, just to get an exclusive contract. When he acted controversially they stood up for him, making plenty of people mad and getting others to disassociate themselves from Spotify (Young, Mitchell). Wouldn’t surprise me if they were having some quiet issues with sponsors/ads. Now they seem to be removing episodes, but reportedly not…

Every platform is eventually going to have to deal with this. The correct move is to be a free speech maximalist (in either political direction) until laws are broken. You can also make rules against directed harassment and threats. Tell the detractors that "it could just as easily be your side being silenced", because that's the honest truth. People will complain, but only the fringes will leave.

Radio stations used to deal with this all the time - remember Howard Stern? Rush Limbaugh? Way more divisive than Rogan.

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Post by 1123581321 »

nobody9999 wrote: post #93
prvc wrote: post #25

If Spotify is trying to effect or create the appearance of a willingness to reach a compromise in response to the recent singer pressure campaign, then it is doing nothing other than signal weakness.

>If Spotify is trying to effect or create the appearance of a willingness to reach a compromise in response to the recent singer pressure campaign, then it is doing nothing other than signal weakness. Perhaps it's just been a long week, but I don't really understand what you mean by "weakness" in this context. Spotify is in an uncomfortable place right now. Some of the folks who generate some revenue for them aren't…

I think the idea is that if Spotify ignored this and waited for the news cycle and hype to move on, they would retain more of their users (through apathy or whatever.) By rewarding people who have been migrating their accounts anyway, while angering others by capitulating, they lose revenue from both “sides” and make themselves susceptible to repeat scenarios further winnowing users. Hard to say if true, but that is the theory.

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Post by speeder »

bourgoin wrote: post #112

I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes: Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Cliffy B could be the game designer.

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Post by inferiorhuman »

DantesKite wrote: post #187

I'm curious if he said the n-word in any of the episodes. The Rock just announced on Twitter some news about finding out just how much Joe Rogan used that slur. News spreads fast in Hollywood circles. Maybe Spotify is trying to get ahead of the curve before any more controversies break out.

India Arie already bailed on Spotify because she didn't want to be associated with Rogaine's race related bullshit. She's explicitly stated that she's indifferent to his COVID misinformation. That was all over one episode. Undoubtedly there's more, it's just a question of how much more.

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Post by Gigachad »

voisin wrote: post #193
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discov…

I only tried music streaming last year and started with Apple Music and was shocked at how outright broken the platform is. Like I’d press play and a different song on the page would play. Or it would start lagging out really bad until I reload the page.

Shocked and how poor apple did here considering I haven’t had issues with any other product from them.

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Post by stevehawk »

FeteCommuniste wrote: post #156
bourgoin wrote: post #112

I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes: Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Some of them are really baffling. Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, Ian Edwards? Tim Ferris?

real chance these were done due to jokes that aren't woke/pc more than vax related

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Post by yannikyeo »

FeteCommuniste wrote: post #156
bourgoin wrote: post #112

I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes: Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Some of them are really baffling. Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, Ian Edwards? Tim Ferris?

Likely delete out of requests by the guests.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by beebmam »

voisin wrote: post #193
mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discov…

I actually find apple music discovery to be far worse for my tastes than Spotify. But nothing even comes close to the SoundCloud Weekly and SoundCloud Upload discovery playlists. I've found such incredible indie musicians through those playlists. I can't rave enough about them.
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