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It baffles me why people continue to judge movements they don't like based on their worst members and movements they do like based on their best intentions. I don't agree with their position but most of the truckers aren't Nazis any more than most BLM participants were looters.
If the group you're in pulls out Nazi flags and you don't leave the group, then you're endorsing Nazism the same as if your group starts to break into a house and you don't leave the group then you're an accessory to breaking into a house. It's very basic stuff here.
Boogaloo Boys are regularly present at BLM protests. Does the failure to kick them out mean the people around them endorse the murder of police and the violent overthrow of the US government?
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are you going to keep that same energy next time some dude walks in with a nazi flag at every single protest you care about?
Yeah. It's easy to kick Nazi's out of the groups I join, because so far no group I've ever been a part of has been attractive to Nazis. I would wager that's the case for most people.
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#204okay so this is an unlawful protest that has a detrimental impact on residents, the environment, and local business. Can someone explain to me why this is tolerated and why these people are not simply being arrested? What it reminds me of is that 2014 standoff with the Bundy family on federal land in the US or farmers in France. Some groups can just do whatever they want apparently.
> unlawful protest Please, give me examples of what you'd consider "lawful" protests of any significance.
Civil disobedience is perfectly fine IMO as long as you exactly follow all the rules, get the proper permits, etc.
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I'm fairly ignorant of crypto, but wouldn't exchanges hold similar power?
yes, an exchange would hold similar power if fiat was desired at all, but it wouldn't prevent the crowdfunding from taking place. and because the crowdfund would still occur, the recipient can find an exchange or trade desk that would do the trade for fiat. right now, fiat crowdfunding sites are acting as the platform and exchange while being beholden to a payment processor behind the scenes. in the crypto model, the…
So what you mean is, so long as all of the truckers supporters had crypto, they could transfer that crypto to the truckers.
Could governments hypothetically not block those transfers/confiscate the wallets?
Again, speaking out of ignorance so forgive the dumb question.
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#206Amazing that the 100 IQ elites all think they want a working class uprising, but when it happens they panic and smear them as every -ist and -ism label in the book. It's fine to disagree with the protesters, but at least be honest about what they want. They've been squeezed off online platforms and out of mainstream discourse, and this is what happens when it bubbles over.
What gets me is the way that people will see a picture of a swastika and immediately brand everyone involved as a racist, but then turn around and say that any wrongdoing that happened during a protest for a cause they do agree with was just a couple of bad apples who had nothing to do with the movement. Does that really only happen on one side?
Perhaps i missed it, but how many other protests in canada involve defiling grave sites, stealing food from the homeless, etc.
I can certainly agree that humans tend to demonize the sins of the other while turning a blind eye to their own side's, but is that really what is happening here? To me it seems like this protest is of a different type.
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There are peaceful ways to protest and expressing oneself, occupying a city this way and stealing food from a homeless shelter is not one of them that should be tolerated. Edit: See my comment below for sources on homeless shelter
Stealing food? Can you cite that?
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not following the whole thing but i think part of the controversy is the person collecting the money is suspected to have run off with it or suspected to intend to run off with it, or something. Regardless, i doubt people waving swastikas and demanding that democratic leaders be replaced with a dictatorship is exactly the type of "standing up to government" gofundme envisioned.
It baffles me why people continue to judge movements they don't like based on their worst members and movements they do like based on their best intentions. I don't agree with their position but most of the truckers aren't Nazis any more than most BLM participants were looters.
If the worst members of a movement are also the organizers, i think its right to judge [in this particular case referring to the MOU document]
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#209Amazing that the 100 IQ elites all think they want a working class uprising, but when it happens they panic and smear them as every -ist and -ism label in the book. It's fine to disagree with the protesters, but at least be honest about what they want. They've been squeezed off online platforms and out of mainstream discourse, and this is what happens when it bubbles over.
I don't think this is a working class thing. The unions don't seem to be supporting it and a significant portion of the truckers don't seem to be on the side of the protesters.
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> unlawful protest Please, give me examples of what you'd consider "lawful" protests of any significance.
Civil disobedience is perfectly fine IMO as long as you exactly follow all the rules, get the proper permits, etc.
> Civil disobedience is perfectly fine IMO as long as you exactly follow all the rules, get the proper permits, etc.
That's not civil disobedience, at all.
That's just civil obedience.