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Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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Id love to hire some Latin American developers for my team. Any pointers on how to find them? Do folks go through outsourcing firms or try to directly hire folks?

There are lot of HN members from Argentina & Brasil. There are plenty of offers from LA in "AskHN Who wants to be hired". That must be the easier way to find devs from our continent.

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The ERP that my company uses is proprietary and they charge large sums of money to make custom changes. I am an in house developer that has gotten to know the database backing the ERP and have extrapolated functionality based on stored procedures and table schemas. The work I do would cost my company much more than my salary and I build interfaces that connect to marketplaces or marketplace API aggregators such as Ch…

Yeah, that's an obvious thing to do, right? However, the company armored themselves against this sort of competency attack against The Machine by having in-house IT by policy gate keep access to the ERP db tables, which are exactly as you describe, and can be reverse engineered. This does have the additional side effect of making it quite difficult (in practice impossible) to implement in-house statistical process co…

SPOF can be applied to the ERP company themselves. Services fail all of the time. DockerHub failed on Friday with their container API which you could argue made it impossible to know the outcome of your builds but you could still get by and pull your containers after pushing repositories. As someone who understands how I can be a single point of failure I make sure to ask for raises within reason and since I love what I do usually means at market rate. It's not like I am holding a company hostage by knowing what value I bring. Not everyone is of the persuasion of extorting their employer due to what their perceptive value is. My time is valuable but not so valuable that I price myself out of a market by my ego. To add to the backstory I have been an employee of the company for the last 4 years with never an intention of leaving nor an intention of taking advantage of any perceived leverage. Some people will disagree and say that I should advocate for more at all times. My perception is either I start my own company and build my ideas/imagination or I keep doing what I do. Why does everything have to be leverage in every situation? I live and work in the Seattle area and may not get paid the same amount as Amazon employees but I certainly get the freedom and encouragement to pursue ways of furthering the company and their future in revenue generating projects. I tend towards the I will give ample notificationt that I will be leaving and will help in making my own job automated eventually. I'd rather leave a trail of automated services than leave another set of people in the lurch because they took a chance on me. One day when I decide to leave there will be enough Go programmers around to maintain what I have built also. Either my services will run until the integrations change their API or I leave knowing that what I have built will maintain itself if I were to take sabbatical and in that case it is no longer my responsibility. The argument that a single developer is worse than a group of developer is old hat when it's clear that an entire team of developers can up and quit and be a single point of failure either in an individual company with a set of nerds or their outsourced company where all developers decide to unionize or the brain of the team leaves and the remainder of the people may be able to sustain the service or don't have the capacity to. Third party services are just as susceptible to these forces but fear should not be a driving factor to hinder the furtherance of your business.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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I get a lot of offers from your company in my LinkedIn in feed. I never applied because all of then show a USD9,000 salary, no matter what the technical specialty is, which I find a little suspicious (I assume you're just luring candidates to provide their data, with no concrete position paying that number). Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not accusing you of this behavior, just commenting that this is what I imagine and the reason I have not applied. Could you please tell me more about how your company works? Thanks!

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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Id love to hire some Latin American developers for my team. Any pointers on how to find them? Do folks go through outsourcing firms or try to directly hire folks?

Try https://torre.co they are specialized in hiring LA devs for American companies

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I am surprised that it took so long to realize that hiring people in the same time zone is better for productivity. I am saying it as someone who spent N years working for an American company from Moscow (~11 hours difference) and had to sleep in the office frequently to get at least some things done (like, code reviews approved by the team members in the main office).

It's interesting to hear of requiring code reviews approved by the main office team. That's a strategy we've adopted on my team, and I got pushback for it. Good to hear that it's not out of the ordinary. The technical quality of the work is typically good, but oftentimes the domain knowledge isn't there due to the T+12 issue meaning little time for overlap.

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I worked for a company that did this. It was (and still is) a complete disaster. They've been around for 5 years and still haven't released a product. If you're going to do this, you'd better have an enormous pile of tasks that can be independently handled and programmatically verified. And just assume that communication between your US team and foreign teams will be nonexistent, it's best to set expectations low ins…

You company basically did everything wrong. Remote teams that are selected well can be a pleasure to work with for everybody involved.

The point was not to say that hiring remotely is a fraught endeavor, it was a cautionary tale to any execs out there who might get it in their head that this is generally a good idea. It can go very very wrong.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ERP that my company uses is proprietary and they charge large sums of money to make custom changes. I am an in house developer that has gotten to know the database backing the ERP and have extrapolated functionality based on stored procedures and table schemas. The work I do would cost my company much more than my salary and I build interfaces that connect to marketplaces or marketplace API aggregators such as Ch…

Hmm, so 99% of the value you create is being skimmed off by the company's shareholders and management? Have you thought about trying to renegotiate to a more equitable split, like 10%/90% or 50%/50% instead of 1%/99%? Or is that impossible because you're in a very weak bargaining position, like a migrant cannery worker? That seems like a major reason people might quit jobs like yours and go work for ERP vendors or ot…

I would argue that if I went to work for the ERP company themselves that my "bargaining" power would actually decrease due to the revenues that they are garnering compared to the company that utilizes the ERP itself. It also assumes I am unhappy with such an outcome that my work is worth 100x my salary and somehow that in itself is reason enough to ask for more. I have ideas that I share with no one that are worth much more and one day soon I will build them myself. Along the way I will have made good contacts in business and investor potential all while not rocking the boat all of the time. I could be completely wrong and would love argument against without down-voting to convince me and potentially others that this in fact is the wrong way to think about things.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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Id love to hire some Latin American developers for my team. Any pointers on how to find them? Do folks go through outsourcing firms or try to directly hire folks?

I'm working for a local company making ARS800,000 (almost USD 4,000) a month. I think I'm the most experienced senior, with a lot of business knowledge as I worked in the industry (Electronics Manufacturing) for almost 20 years. I not only code, but also make most of the architectural decisions.

After seeing this I realized how badly underpaid I am.

I work full stack, have pretty deep experience using postgresql and node js. So if thats something you find useful, don't hesitate to contact me. My email is my user name @Hotmail

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, so 99% of the value you create is being skimmed off by the company's shareholders and management? Have you thought about trying to renegotiate to a more equitable split, like 10%/90% or 50%/50% instead of 1%/99%? Or is that impossible because you're in a very weak bargaining position, like a migrant cannery worker? That seems like a major reason people might quit jobs like yours and go work for ERP vendors or ot…

I would argue that if I went to work for the ERP company themselves that my "bargaining" power would actually decrease due to the revenues that they are garnering compared to the company that utilizes the ERP itself. It also assumes I am unhappy with such an outcome that my work is worth 100x my salary and somehow that in itself is reason enough to ask for more. I have ideas that I share with no one that are worth mu…

I don't think it's a wrong way to think about things. Multiple ways of thinking about things are valid.

It's possible that your bargaining position vis-a-vis the ERP company would be worse if you were an employee. But probably not if you were a founder. And surely the ERP company's bargaining position relative to your company is better than yours.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for inflated tech salaries in US metros. Those areas will seriously suffer if corporations decide they are no longer willing to pay through the nose to support the insane cost of living in NYC, SF, etc.

And white-collar Americans in tech will finally get to suffer along with the rest of the country as the American system of "spend more for a worse life". It shouldn't be so hard to keep a basic middle-class lifestyle, with historically low inflation, but it is.

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