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GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

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Re: GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

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Browser can be configured not to send this data. If I ask you to jump from the bridge, and you do, how is it my fault that you chose to comply?

So code in frontend would be "asking" in this case, in your opinion? Javascript is executed by default by all major browser deployments.

If you are that caring about your privacy, you absolutely should use a browser that is configured in such a way that it doesn't leak your IP to anyone you didn't consent to.

Re: GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

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post #146

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The end result is that the fact that you visited this website is passed to Google, and this can then be used for advertising purposes.

This is true. But the request containing that information is being sent by your own computer. It’s bit a “doing” of the website owner.

It really depends. If the website links to a URL that is the same for everyone on every website which uses that font, then without a referrer header (which is up to the browser to send) there is not much tracking info.

But if the website uses a URL that is unique for that site, or even for each user, that is absolutely something I'd hold the website owner responsible for.

Re: GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

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post #176

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You could also say that the user is opting in to loading a font from google when he actively sends the request to google. You could also say the user is opting in to storing cookies by accepting the file and writing it to his own disk, and sending the file back when the site asks for it. I think it is too late for these kinds of arguments in the EU though, and maybe with good reason, if it turns out the average citiz…

It hardly matters in the court of law what you "could also say". The law is clear: you don't have to send your users' data to third parties, but if you decide to do it, you have to receive their informed consent first . In this case, the defendant chose to send personal data to a third party without receiving their informed consent. The option of conforming with the law by not sending that data anywhere still stands,…

But technically, the user itself is sending his own data to the third party, and the original website is merely requesting the user to do so. You could interpret it like this: "To use this website, it's best if you have this font. You can get it from here: https://google.com/fonts/blah". It's not exactly the same case as a more obvious GDPR violation, where the website would collect information from the user, and then send it to a third party (e.g. selling user data to a data broker).

>It hardly matters in the court of law what you "could also say".

On the contrary, it's exactly what the court is there for.

Re: GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

#204

Unfortunately, GDPR is an insane web of laws and regulations that any non-lawyer has absolutely no hope of understanding.

https://gdpr.eu/compliance/

The whole thing, including guides, is much shorter than the spec for HTML: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/

Probably clearer, too.

And just like for specs there are even better third party doc sites you can use: https://gdpr-info.eu/

Dry reads, but it's not like RFCs are heart wrenching novels either :-D

Re: GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

#206
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Reductio ad absurdum: if serving fonts from Google is “unnecessary” and leaks information, so would be using any CDN service to deliver any content.

A CDN that sells your data (or doesn’t otherwise protect it) is more accurately termed “spying network”

Shouldn't be the onus on the regulator's part to prove that Google is selling or not protecting the user's IP address?

Re: GDPR penalty for passing on of IP address to Google by using Google Fonts

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The ruling says the website owner illegally shared the user’s IP address with Google. AFAIK, this is an incorrect interpret of events. The website merely tells the user’s browser that the content is intended to be displayed using a font that, if not installed on the user’s computer, can be downloaded from Google’s server. It is the the user’s browser that initiates a request to Google’s server. A request by the websi…

While you somewhat correct, in that the browser sends the request, but it is not a 'can be downloaded' but rather an imperative saying 'get that font from that server'.

In the end, the w3c standards define, that browsers execute the commands they receive from the server and in this case, the server tells the browser to download the font. So the site-owner configures his website in a way, that this site instructs browser to share the IP address.

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