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Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by alefvanoon »

commoner wrote: post #8
mattrighetti wrote: post #4

I've noticed this too, but that's also the reason why I use Nitter [0]. I'm also a bit lazy so I've also setup a redirector plugin to automatically redirect every twitter link to Nitter, been happy since then. [0] https://nitter.nl

Nitter is great. The Privacy Redirect extension can automatically redirect your Twitter page loads to Nitter: https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect If you are on Android, you can also use the free and open source Fritter client to view tweets and browse Twitter without an account: https://fritter.cc

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Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by dnissley »

saagarjha wrote: post #123
torginus wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. When Reddit, Quora, Medium, Twitter started, they have posed themselves as privately owned public spaces, much like Wikipedia. This was the 'social' contract they presented to users. They built their monopolies on top of the goodwill of users. I'm pretty sure that subject matter experts who wrote extremely long-winded and well-researched articles on Roman battle tactics, did not do so with the intent, tha…

Twitter specifically positions itself as a space for public conversation, and is sometimes the only place where people like world leaders and government organizations post their content. Blocking posts behind a login wall seems, at least to me, antithetical to their past messaging.

So the question then becomes: Is there anything wrong with them deciding to go a different direction than their past messaging? Or should they forever be beholden to it?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by dnissley »

factotvm wrote: post #83
delecti wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you not want an account on a website you rely on? It's one thing to complain that your occasional visits to twitter are more inconvenient now. But if you would go so far as to say that people rely on them, then it seems like a silly hill to die on for those people to resist creating an account.

For me, it’s because I’m on my work machine. I don’t move my personal credentials to my work machine. (In fact, I moved over to my phone to write this comment.) We could discuss that aspect—sharing accounts on computers that don’t belong to me—but that’s why I’m often thwarted from reading content. I have the account, just not on me.

Any reason not to create a work twitter account?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by someone7x »

dnissley wrote: post #203
saagarjha wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter specifically positions itself as a space for public conversation, and is sometimes the only place where people like world leaders and government organizations post their content. Blocking posts behind a login wall seems, at least to me, antithetical to their past messaging.

So the question then becomes: Is there anything wrong with them deciding to go a different direction than their past messaging? Or should they forever be beholden to it?

I mean, bait-and-switch is a type of fraud right?

Presumably their ToS absolves them of any legal liabilities but it's still wrong to offer an open garden only to close it once the people created an arboretum.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by winternett »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #5

> Unfortunately twitter is going the direction of quora, pinterest, facebook, and medium Don’t forget Reddit. Reddit’s login pop-ups are more aggressive than Twitter’s for me. > Now you can perhaps read ten tweets or replies to a linked tweet without an account before the same thing occurs Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think any company is obligated to provide unlimited access for free without an account.…

It also makes permanent bans a very harsh thing they can inflict...

I was "permanently" banned after over 12 years of contributing content to reddit by a random subreddit mod (banned from all of reddit) just for doing a music video cross posting to a music subreddit and suddenly my own subreddit was orphaned and I could not access content posted by others including on Google search because I then had no account. To this day, all of my posts are orphaned and now owned by reddit with no way for me to delete them, and all I got was vague boiler plate responses as to why with no means of requesting reinstatement.

The content wall also limits outreach for people that use Twitter to promote their business behind the scenes too, pretty much voiding a major benefit of posting to Twitter for everyone (unbeknownst to users).

It's completely hostile behavior that does not get addressed because it is inflicted on such an individual basis. Most people with user accounts don't know about the content blocking because they're always logged in and being tracked.

These sites do not own the content, the people that make the content are the actual content owners, if there was more awareness about underhanded things these sites do, this would not be seen as good business.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by scotuswroteus »

dnissley wrote: post #203
saagarjha wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter specifically positions itself as a space for public conversation, and is sometimes the only place where people like world leaders and government organizations post their content. Blocking posts behind a login wall seems, at least to me, antithetical to their past messaging.

So the question then becomes: Is there anything wrong with them deciding to go a different direction than their past messaging? Or should they forever be beholden to it?

Data/content portability is part of that conversation.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter is growing increasingly unusable without an account

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Post by scotuswroteus »

kbsspl wrote: post #107
torginus wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. When Reddit, Quora, Medium, Twitter started, they have posed themselves as privately owned public spaces, much like Wikipedia. This was the 'social' contract they presented to users. They built their monopolies on top of the goodwill of users. I'm pretty sure that subject matter experts who wrote extremely long-winded and well-researched articles on Roman battle tactics, did not do so with the intent, tha…

internet was supposed to be the savior. these sites were the vanguard of the brave new world. instead it was the worst sellout ever, using the greatest power in time, to build megaliths that have humongous power of distortion. yes, it hurts. and it should. much more. but they manage to make people to 'move on'. in the end. we forgot. It's always about power.

why did this turn into an elliot smith poem at the end, lmao.
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