Apple Reports First Quarter Results • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by Ntrails » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 10:17 AM UTC

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #91

25.1% Mac growth. For professionals and enthusiasts, you either just got your M1, you’re saving for one, or waiting on the Pro Desktops. I’m curious to see if there’s any change to the replacement rate of Macs. It seems normal for people to use the same laptop for four or more years — a far sight longer than the two-year life expectancy of laptops twenty years ago, but about half of the replacement rate of smartphone…

> It seems normal for people to use the same laptop for four or more years — a far sight longer than the two-year life expectancy of laptops twenty years ago, but about half of the replacement rate of smartphones.

Are people really still replacing their phones every two years? Mine always last for 4+

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by michelb » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 11:51 AM UTC

lvl100 wrote: post #33

Man, I wish Steve Jobs were alive to witness the total domination. I imagine he knew but perhaps not to this extent.

Well, big difference is that Jobs was playing company with the shareholders money, while Cook is doing something else, like returning shareholders money.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by MisterSandman » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 2:44 PM UTC

roflulz wrote: post #183

fartcannon wrote: post #139

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Yes blame Apple as they have the most money and thus the most responsibility to do better. 3 trillion dollars is worth how many human lives?

the US was built on the back of slaves and continues to be run on stolen land. How is doing business with any American business any different?

What a stupid fucking comment. It's been decades since Slavery was a thing and anyone with half a brain cell condemns it. To say that it's okay for Apple to exploit workers because "that's how America was built" is mind-bogglingly stupid.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 2:53 PM UTC

kamaal wrote: post #181

zepto wrote: post #95

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> Demographics can be topped up using immigration. Without immigration the US would also be in demographic decline. There is a reason people move to the US. Good luck to the CCP attempting to reproduce that.

Most people from third world countries who move to the USA do so because of the infrastructure and quality of life, not because they read 'Bill of Rights'. Also machines are coming for your jobs, you wont need that many people anyway.

Who said anything about the third world?

Highly qualified workers from Europe still come to the US too.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 2:55 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #187

zepto wrote: post #149

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> simple things like not providing a compiler in the box or trying to add security can be seen to crush competition Neither of these things crush competition in any way. Security is not illegal, nor is anyone compelled by law to write compilers.

I could not possibly disagree more. Being unable to use any other operating system on your PC was definitely seen as harming the user, and after lots of battles secureboot is optional on x86 windows PCs (but not arm)- in the same vain we managed to successfully argue that people other than Microsoft should have secureboot keys too, and thus redhat also have secureboot keys. Not having a compiler though? That’s what p…

Who was shipping a free compiler in the Microsoft era?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 2:57 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #194

threeseed wrote: post #157

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> Apple controls the platform they’re running on in every case. They actually don’t have a meaningful choice in that area. Except they do. They can choose to use Android like many non-teens do. Where all of those apps except for one is available.

That is like saying Microsoft Windows is not a monopoly in the 90s because they have a choice to choose Mac or Linux.

Given that Apple was able to outgrow Microsoft despite this so called monopoly, that seems quite reasonable.

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Post by arein3 » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 3:23 PM UTC

roflulz wrote: post #183

fartcannon wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes blame Apple as they have the most money and thus the most responsibility to do better. 3 trillion dollars is worth how many human lives?

the US was built on the back of slaves and continues to be run on stolen land. How is doing business with any American business any different?

are you black? why do you believe that?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by nicbou » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 3:32 PM UTC

opportune wrote: post #147

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #145

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Paul Samuelson the Nobel Memorial Prize laureate repeatedly predicted the USSR economy will overtake the US within X years. Predictions are hard!

The USSR was closeish to the US population. China has 4x the US population. That roughly means they only need to reach 1/4 the living standards of the US to have a larger economy. Seems pretty doable.

China also has a massive, modern industry as far as I can tell.

People bought far fewer goods from the USSR than we do from China.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by nicbou » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 3:40 PM UTC

smoldesu wrote: post #148

mdoms wrote: post #123

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> you never blame yourself for buying Apple How quickly we forget that Apple just had 2 generations of complete dogshit laptops.

It was more than that, pretty much everything between late 2014 and late 2018 is just... not really usable as a daily driver. Luckily they fixed the keyboard and quit stringing Intel along under the pretense that they could "make things work" by modifying ACPI tables, but I don't think I'll ever be truly comfortable using a Mac until I can drop one at waist-height and not be down $2000. Different strokes for differen…

I carried my MacBook in my motorcycle luggage for over 40,000km, and I dropped it from waist height at the airport. It's still running smoothly.

The only issue is the keyboard, which is now on its third replacement. The extended replacement program ran out last year, but they still replace keys for free.

This is a 2017 MacBook. They upgraded my 2012 model for the price of a battery swap because the 2012 parts were out of stock. In other words, I've been going for 10 years on the same laptop purchase.

They're not perfect laptops, but they're still the best ROI I've had on a laptop, and far better than any laptop I've had before.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by tomxor » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 4:52 PM UTC

aetherspawn wrote: post #5

jb1991 wrote: post #4

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Just wish the quality control was the same as in the Jobs era.

I have never bought an Apple device that so much as had a spec of dust in the box. But I’ve never had a Dell or HP laptop come without a bezel scratch or something like that. So in my books, Apple are still a league ahead on quality, even.

> I have never bought an Apple device that so much as had a spec of dust in the box

Of course not! If there was dust it would immediately brick the keyboard.