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FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Heh. Probably unnecessary to make it look like it was put in the scanner misaligned. Just scan the signature itself and past that image onto the image of the document.

But you could also increase the size of the pdf and clog the bureaucracy's systems.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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post #190

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> The closest is probably moving your drivers license registration, which many people wait years to do after moving. Most states do require by law that you do this in a very short period of time after moving. (Although yes, it is not uncommon for people to violate this)

Only if you have a driving license and plan on driving. I agree, it's quite odd that you never officially register as a resident of the state, but I guess it's part of the US's aversion to "papers please."

It’s also that there are different standards of requirements across the thousands of different government entities that care about residency. And there’s not much chance they’d agree.

My municipal tax authority and the US State department may have very different standards for validating “residency” and very different reasons for doing so.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Preview has an odd selection of functions, though. On one hand it allows you to do plenty of these functions that you mention, but otoh misses on very trivial stuff like "I'd like to make my image a bit larger so I could paste another one next to it".

Isn’t that just on the menu > adjust image size?

I mean, extend the canvas but keep the original image as it is.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Preview on Mac OS can do this. You hold your signature up to the camera and then it creates an image you can add to any pdf.

This issue this app attempts to solve is companies that insist on a scanned "wet" signature, and will send it back if it looks like you just pasted in your signature stamp.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Isn’t that just on the menu > adjust image size?

I mean, extend the canvas but keep the original image as it is.

Ahh, yes. I have wanted to do this too, and can’t. I suspect Preview isn’t the tool I’m supposed to use, even though it’s the ones I want to use as it doesn’t almost everything I want.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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Yes, they also do this for ID's, and for voter ID's. It's specifically created to prevent people whom don't have only 1 permanent address,with paper billing, being able to live their daily lives. I had to go to a local county courthouse 4 times to get a "realid" and to renew a driver's license. I had to call all sorts of people to get printed statements sent to me. It's incredibly ridiculous, I would call it complete…

The point is to authenticate residency, and while it’s not a great system, there also isn’t any better alternatives.

They could pay Google and Apple to tell them where you sleep, based on your phone GPS anyway.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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post #191

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> They needed to see bills that offered proof of my residence (ie power/water/etc). Turns out they wanted them to be mailed to you, What state? Certainly, that's neither in the Federal REAL ID requirements (more stringent than most preexisting state requirements) nor most states implementation of REAL ID (which can be narrower than what REAL ID allows.) E.g., California, for REAL ID, requires documents (not necessari…

Which is crazy, because those would be trivially easy to fake. And then REAL ID is considered as reliable as a passport (except to fly internationally, of course), so you've bumped up the level of trust a huge amount with one simple edited printout of a bill.

When I was applying for driver's license, I could use a printed webpage of my bank report. Which is trivial to fake, because you can just edit the address in the HTML to whatever you like and print it. I could also use a renting agreement, which of course, is also trivial to fake since they don't verify with the landlord.

I think they just don't actually care where you live that much. And since they'll mail your card to that address, that place has to be associated with you somehow.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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post #186

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If you live in a vehicle/RV it can be hard to prove residence. I've used UPS Store boxes but most places have caught on to that and don't allow it anymore. I've been told you can use a homeless shelter as the residence and a box as a mailing address but haven't tried it myself.

What about other lesser-known private mail boxes?

They are all required to register as a personal mailbox company (PMB). States have DBs of these addresses and use them to filter out boxes.

Re: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned

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I explicitly said it was not good authentication. :) Mailing someone a code would be more secure but, to the parents point, would be even more onerous of a process for people to comply with. Some comments above suggested above that this is an intentionally burdensome process, but to the contrary, bringing in a bill is one of the least burdensome ways to authenticate residency.

> bringing in a bill is one of the least burdensome ways to authenticate residency My problem with this is how is the recipient supposed to authenticate said bill. Now we're talking about bringing a paper bill vs a printed one (or "faking" a paper bill by creasing/folding the printed one), but the real threat is fraudsters completely making up a fake bill to begin with. Unless the recipient has a relationship with th…

Yes. There’s no question that a bill is a weak piece of evidence for residency. I am sure it only prevents low-effort or low-skill fraudsters, or casual fibs.

The latter is probably where they get the most utility out of these requirements.

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