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Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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Post by micromacrofoot »

roganp wrote: post #98
NoblePublius wrote: post #46

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There’s an Antarctic research station of entirely triple vaxxed people that is on complete lockdown now because most of them have Covid. I know 22 people who have gotten positive tests in the last two weeks, all vaccinated. Sports leagues practically 100% vaccinated and dozens and dozens and dozens of players out for Covid. I do not believe for one second any public health data today claiming only 1/5 new cases are v…

If nearly %100 of the nba is vaccinated, then it's more likely that the break thru cases will outnumber the cases on the un-vaccinated, even if the vaccine is very effective at preventing infection. The vaccine does not need to be %100 effective for it to make sense from a public policy perspective.

we also have multiple cases of players lying about vaccination status

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Post by ukj »

iqanq wrote: post #185
ukj wrote: post #182

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Do you have a better strategy, or are you just practicing fallacies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy

I am responding to your comment - you say that asserting your rights by not taking the vaccine won't end the pandemic, while I am saying that taking it won't end it either.

Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you.

Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.

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Post by throwaway55421 »

occz wrote: post #154

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Well, when you invent a slur and define it to mean whatever you want you can find many examples of it.

I have had three coronavirus jabs. I think mandates are hysterical and counterproductive and I resist surveillance.

Being anti lockdown, anti surveillance, anti discrimination... generally just anti hysteria, is the only correct choice.

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Post by jquery »

cft wrote: post #68
darknessmonk wrote: post #34

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Vaccines reduce spread because of lower viral load. Also reduces severity. Antivaxxers can be execrated for all I care - dumbest way to enforce your freedom

I was sick with 101.5F for a week, excruciating headaches, confirmed by a positive PCR after Moderna vaccination. My girlfriend as well, two months after the second dose. How much higher would our viral load be without Moderna?

Whatever your experience with the virus was, it would’ve been a lot worse if you were unvaccinated.

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

baskethead wrote: post #178
SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #18

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My understanding is that the vaccines aren’t completely effective at stopping you catching/spreading, but they are a whole lot better than being immune naive altogether. Casual googling has given me some Washington state pdf data that says even in the most robust cohort (13-29 year olds) unvaccinated folks get Covid at 3x the rate of unvaccinated and the differences only get more dramatic from there. If you have more…

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Do you mean vaccination isn’t effective in your circle or as a population level? Or do you mean a different definition of effective? The study I linked to shows there is at least an effect.

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Post by baskethead »

maxerickson wrote: post #130
tdrdt wrote: post #79

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There's no evidence that vaccination is hampering immune response. Among those infected with Omicron, hospitalization and intensive care rates are much higher in unvaccinated...

“There’s no evidence” is the official weasel words of the pandemic.

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/the-phrase-no-evidence...

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Post by tonfreed »

xxpor wrote: post #76

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It's amazing that the unvaccinated are being blamed for the vaccine not working.

I mean, look at BC in Canada where the most at-risk people have a vaxx rate of 99%+ and overall rate of ~90% for the rest of the eligible population, the government still saw fit to shut it all down 3 days before Christmas. Compliance doesn't ensure freedom.

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

NoblePublius wrote: post #188
SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #80

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Wait, do I understand this correctly that because you have heard of cases happening in vaccinated people, without studying them as broad populations, you think there isn’t a statistical difference in vaccinated and unvaccinated people as a population? Why?

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Um… I think we have a fundamental disagreement on what sources of information we cite! Do you have non-governmental sources of information we can mutually agree upon to discuss instead? Thank you!
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