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Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by JohnHaugeland »

jefftk wrote: post #45

This is presented as a problem with "big tech", but I don't think most people would consider Tinder (Match Group) to be big tech? Instead, this kind of problem where you get flagged with no explanation or recourse seems to be common to consumer tech of all but the smallest scale. It's just very expensive to provide high quality individual support.

> This is presented as a problem with "big tech", but I don't think most people would consider Tinder (Match Group) to be big tech?

I think you don't recognize the scale of Match Group. They make two billion per year, they have 2000 staff, and they own basically every dating site.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by hansel_der »

jefftk wrote: post #45

This is presented as a problem with "big tech", but I don't think most people would consider Tinder (Match Group) to be big tech? Instead, this kind of problem where you get flagged with no explanation or recourse seems to be common to consumer tech of all but the smallest scale. It's just very expensive to provide high quality individual support.

maybe making money with a product that you cannot support ought to be regulated.

i too grew up with oss-licences that tell me i'm on my own and thats kind ok, but i don't want to live in a world were commercial products are labeled "not fit for any purpose. use at your own risk"

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

emacsen wrote: post #140
999900000999 wrote: post #106

By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

I don't know what happened in this situation, but generally refunding money for TOS violations is a bad idea. Let me explain why. Imagine that Alice runs a service where you can send people greeting cards. Bob decides he's going to use this service to cause trouble and instead of normal greeting cards, he sends people messages with hate speech, such as their race, their religion, says he hoped they get cancer, and so…

> I don't know what happened in this situation, but generally refunding money for TOS violations is a bad idea.

You can learn the article and learn what happened. We are not talking about things in general, but about this particular situation. Basically, it's pure theft. But since the amount is so low, nobody will sue them. In this way they can scam thousands of people and go unpunished.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by zionic »

polote wrote: post #44

It has always been like that on Tinder. My phone number can't create a new account for example (never receive the confirmation code). That's called shadowban in the case of OP. Bumble started doing the same practices a year ago (which makes sense as they have the same founder) But they are not 100% wrong, Tinder is not here to make people meet each other. They are here to make money and people don't pay because they…

>This has nothing to do with Big tech. If you want to meet people don't use Tinder,

As I said in my comment up-post, Tinder has a near-absolute monopoly in my area. If you're not on Tinder you basically don't exist on the local dating market.

Yes, the future sucks.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by spywaregorilla »

vmception wrote: post #128
999900000999 wrote: post #106

By far the best part is they didn't automatically cancel his subscription. What a horrible company, if you've banned my account that's fine but cancel the subscription and refund my money. If y'all haven't looked at it yet, read up on the FCC's filing against Match. They knowingly prompt up tons of fake profiles, to get you engaged. Horrifically this has lead to romance scams being the number one source of fraud in t…

> When I actually meet someone, It was always someone who is in their mid-20s to 30s without a job. In real life, everyone I've gone out with has had a decent job, due to another scary experience I don't go out with people who aren't working. Overfitting is a modeling error in statistics that occurs when a function is too closely aligned to a limited set of data points. ... Thus, attempting to make the model conform…

And yet forming priors based on experience gained in a classic multi arm bandit thompson sampling approach with appropriate exploitation exploration tradeoff is generally the dominant strategy in any static unfamiliar space.

Alternatively, contextualizing things into niche stats frameworks doesn't make you correct, or sound intelligent.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by schnitzelstoat »

tsimionescu wrote: post #143
3np wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be my guess as well. People who frequently travel/change residences or have bases in more than one place seem to get banned or blocked by all kinds of services. Regardless of the intentions of the people designing these systems, I’d argue this is textbook systemic discrimination; you face issues only due to being different enough in the “wrong” way.

I very much doubt a dating service would have this problem, as many people use dating services while traveling even if they wouldn't at home (either because of cheating or just knowing the scene better at home).

While this is true, romance scammers also often try to obscure/spoof their true location - so I can see why it'd be something the Tinder algos would be sensitive to

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by sebastianconcpt »

newyankee wrote: post #20

FWIW I seldom got any likes on Tinder in USA. I would consider myself in the top 10% of my own country in height and looks but not the same in USA. I realized that US women do not consider me attractive at least based on limited data that a Tinder card shows.

Because Tinder is a woman's menu of fuck buddies and for that they aim at the top fraction of 1%. It's unreal but is where their fantasy is taking them.

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by sarasasa28 »

I have a story to share too: I talked a considerable time with a girl from another country and was about to travel to visit her. Then, I started having mixed feelings, wasn't sure about everything, decided to stop, told her and she got angry (well, until that moment I understood her quite well).

A while later I tried to use Tinder again, and my account was banned. I don't really remember how I discovered it, if she told me, or a representative told me, but the thing was: She report me as I had verbally abused her, mistreated her and shada shada, because she was angry I dumped her.

So they closed my account without even checking our conversations at least (there was no insults or nothing at all)

Re: Tinder just permabanned me or the problem with big tech

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Post by 88840-8855 »

canadaduane wrote: post #179
bigwheeler wrote: post #129

I just lost my IG account after having it for literally a decade. Short story: I thought my engagement was low, so I manually went through my not-very-large follower list (2400 or so) in the IG app, identified about 100 accounts that I thought were bots (accounts that were following 6000+ people), and then went to each one and removed them as a follower. I made it about 40 in when suddenly I got meaningless errors, l…

I was banned for trying to create a 2nd account for my business.

That is great. Why would you have a "business" account on tinder?
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