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President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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I worked with people from China at a previous job. They came to visit us (South America) and while having dinner I lightly suggested things in China are difficult when it comes to freedom, right? Their facial expression changed immediately. They said it was better not to talk about that. They were who knows how many kilometers from home, not a single Chinese national around to report them, and they still feared talking about this subject. It was a short but eye opening experience for me.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#202

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You do not know how easy it is to control mass populations. Open a history book

You don't even need to open a history book. Just open a newspaper.

Just open the window and look outside.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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post #83

Thanks. Only for the record, the message I get from EU: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact help@purdueexponent.org or call 765-743-1111. Maybe it…

Indeed I interpret this as “they were going to extract much more data than needed”, but it could just be fear.

I saw it as the opposite- the website was exposing personal info about the man who was harassed.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#204

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US embarrassments, however, have movies made about them, as opposed to burying them as deeply as possible whilst simultaneously threatening every single citizen with, essentially, removal from society, if they speak against the chosen narrative. No country is innocent, some are, however, free (moreso, at least, enough to matter, enough to choose if the need arises).

Those movies are more often than not glorifying such embarrassments, which make them propaganda. As an analogy for China & the US, you can say one of them is Orwellian while the other is Huxleyan. They're both oppressive, but it's about time to stop pretending only coercion is bad; propaganda is everywhere in american media and it's the same tactic used by autocracies in the 40s: spin everything you do as "us vs them…

Indeed. If I recall correctly, movies which use US Military equipment are often required to work with/be reviewed by the Pentagon:

[0] https://www.defense.gov/News/Inside-DOD/Blog/article/2062735...

[1] https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2011-aug-21-la-ca-mi...

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#205
post #8

I find it highly entertaining that they talk about denying rights and then deny the whole of the EU access because they insist on violating their readers' privacy rights and that would be illegal in the EU.

It's not denying rights, it's denying service. Right or wrong (I think it's wrong, btw), let's not mix up what's happening to make it sound worse.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#206

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

You only have to look at this very website to see the same happening with US citizens' support for their government's chosen narrative. It bodes poorly for Puerto Rico, Cuba, Nicaragua and every other nation who had military juntas propped up by the USG and still suffer from american influence. Some will go to great lengths to foment hatred against whistleblowers, such as Assange or Snowden.

Oh yes, I totally agree, but I just think this is on a different scale, and I might be way wrong on this, but...

Imagine a US college student studying overseas commenting about the US failures in the Vietnam War or the Iraq War over nonexistent WMDs. Would other US students harass that individual, and if so, would they report the individual to US "authorities" to make sure a message was passed on to the individuals parents?

I get riled up about bad opinions, but I'm not going out of my way to make their lives miserable or report them to authorities. Fuck man, I've got shit to do of my own.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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My guess is that there is not enough staff resources to ensure that all sites are compliant to the GDPR regulations so a blanket block of the EU was the most (only) cost effective solution to mitigate risk.

If they don't have user accounts and no ads then there's literally nothing to do to be GDPR compliant. Literally zero.

You need to NOT store IP addresses. And the hosters that provide you traffic need to also NOT store them

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US embarrassments, however, have movies made about them, as opposed to burying them as deeply as possible whilst simultaneously threatening every single citizen with, essentially, removal from society, if they speak against the chosen narrative. No country is innocent, some are, however, free (moreso, at least, enough to matter, enough to choose if the need arises).

Those movies are more often than not glorifying such embarrassments, which make them propaganda. As an analogy for China & the US, you can say one of them is Orwellian while the other is Huxleyan. They're both oppressive, but it's about time to stop pretending only coercion is bad; propaganda is everywhere in american media and it's the same tactic used by autocracies in the 40s: spin everything you do as "us vs them…

AFAIK there was (still is) huge public backlash after it became apparent that there were no WMDs in Iraq. Ofc you can argue that this reaction was too late and maybe even insincere (since public support was very high in the beginning of the war).

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

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It's not the technical assistance needed it's the legal review. Go get that from a CS major.

You don't need a legal review. • A static site without JavaScript; • with all images / external resources hosted on the same domain; • where the logs are default configuration, don't leave the server (except as GoAccess reports), and are deleted / anonymised eventually; is GDPR-compliant. Sure, there are other ways to be compliant, but this works, and is basically the default way of setting up a website. It's not har…

I miss the web of the 90s too. User expectations and web economy have changed a lot since then though.

Re: President Daniels responds to Chinese student's harassment

#210
post #101

The scale of some Chinese people's commitment to support of their government's chosen narrative against facts is quite impressive / scary. Zealots make great cannon fodder, and the more cannon fodder the higher the chance of winning. It bodes poorly for Hong Kong, Taiwan, and any other country with a coastline along the South China Sea.

One of the best ways for those of us in the democratic West to combat this is to not tolerate when our own governments promote false narratives. This displays the virtues of our imperfect system better than anything else, imo. Don't tolerate lies, hypocrisy, or sophistry from our leaders even if they are nominally on 'our side'.

> One of the best ways for those of us in the democratic West to combat this is to not tolerate when our own governments promote false narratives

Virtually every narrative peddled by politicians in the West is either false or misleading. That's a high bar that I don't think we'll ever meet. We can maybe asymptotically approach it, say by getting money out of politics, but I don't think it will ever go away.

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