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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by mintplant »

vmception wrote: post #51
sva_ wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do Chromium-based browsers also adopt this Manifestv3? If so, isn't Brave Chromium-based?

No they don’t, they manually merge code from upstream if they like it. Since Brave doesnt like it they wont merge it.

That's not actually true. Brave's system uses a Chromium commit hash as a base, then applies patches on top of that. They'll have to manually move the old API implementation into patches and continue to maintain it there.

Source: I've collaborated with / worked on Brave in the past.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by trts »

account-5 wrote: post #186
miralize wrote: post #56

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

Open Firefox, type 'about:profiles' in address bar... Is that what you're after?

It’s odd to me that FF has not exposed this function more readily to the user but it indeed works just the same as Chrome

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by mintplant »

laurent92 wrote: post #135
beervirus wrote: post #6

Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.

Firefox show ads for Firefox all the time. The “WE CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY” tab that opens every second time, is the most “big browser” warning to me. Anyone who says so much that they care (while asking me to create an account to upload my browser history, which is the best antipattern in our surveillance states) can’t possibly be honest. Plus they fire CEOs who are against at-will abortion, so they’re literally aga…

> Plus they fire CEOs who are against at-will abortion, so they’re literally against my religion.

I think you've got a few wires crossed. The Brendan Eich controversy was over his donation to support Prop 8, which banned same-sex marriage in California.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by tus666 »

frutiger wrote: post #195
bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

> I'd also like to see a Chromium fork that continues to allow the Manifest V2 API. Maintaining a Chromium fork that deviates from upstream is a full time job that requires about 3-5 engineers. My day job's sibling team maintains such a fork.

Isn't it called Brave?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by dessant »

SquareWheel wrote: post #198
zagrebian wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s some information here: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss...

Thanks for linking. So this post talks primarily about missing support for noop ("no operation") rules. Jumping into the uBlock docs, they say: >A request can be blocked (block), allowed (allow), or ignored (noop). A noop rule will cause matching network requests to be ignored by the dynamic filtering engine, but those ignored network requests will still be subjected to static filtering (filter lists). So the missing…

The main issue is that both conditions and actions are limited. At the very least they would need to allow registering self-contained functions as conditions and actions, nothing less will allow extensions to have proper control over requests.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by sdfgsdf »

bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

Hey, I have my own workflow around tree style tabs + bookmarks (I think several people are re-inventing the same setup independently), but I guess I don't know browsers/css well enough to understand what you described.

Explain it like I'm 5: A) to get rid of the top tabs I copy-paste your userChrome.css and put it where?, and B) will that have any other effects?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by zimmund »

bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

I've combined TST with 1) "Firefox Multi-Account Containers" (to have different "profiles" within the same browser, very useful for personal/work/shopping/etc), 2) "Simple Tab Groups" to be able to switch contexts (social networks time, research, free time reading and news... these are topical groups, different functionality from containers).

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by staticassertion »

fuckcensorship wrote: post #188
SquareWheel wrote: post #163

For all the claims that the sky is falling, I'd like to know which functionality is still missing in declarativeNetRequest. Extended rule limits, dynamic rules, and header modification have been added. What else is required for a functional adblocker? This reddit thread barely seems to understand the issue, never mind the technical deficiencies of the API.

There is an issue open on the uBlock Origin GitHub[1] which discusses the technical aspect of these changes in much more detail. [1]: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338

This should be in the first post. The reddit thread is crowded and mostly useless information.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by ayushnix »

eitland wrote: post #121
unbanned wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the experience is absolutely awful.

Would you mention what you don't understand so that someone can help you instead of just talking bad about a very nifty piece of software?

The last time I tried the Multi Account Containers add-on, it randomly wiped my list of websites after browser restarts and upgrades and there was no way to export the list of websites I had containerized. IIRC, there still isn't a way to do it unless I use Firefox Sync, which I don't.

The addon was also basically abandoned for quite some time with lots of bugs all over the place and was revived only recently. It was an extremely painful experience, to say the least.

I still use the Containerise addon instead because of that unpleasant experience.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by ATsch »

tus666 wrote: post #204
frutiger wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd also like to see a Chromium fork that continues to allow the Manifest V2 API. Maintaining a Chromium fork that deviates from upstream is a full time job that requires about 3-5 engineers. My day job's sibling team maintains such a fork.

Isn't it called Brave?

Preferrably one that is not involved in some kind of cryptocurrency scammery scheme.
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