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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by ohyeshedid »

qwertox wrote: post #4

Hmm. For me the dislike button was informative. If feels like they are trying to create a world where everything can only be good, better, even more better, which just doesn't represent reality. Imagine Stack Overflow only having the option to upvote Questions and Answers. The ratio of likes vs dislikes of a TED talk does help me to decide if I should stop watching a video which just isn't getting better.

Likes and dislikes don't ultimately matter to Google, engagement does. Viewing is enough: likes, dislikes, comments; those are just multipliers.

Hiding dislikes is something Brands want.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by mattowen_uk »

genewitch wrote: post #18
qwertox wrote: post #4

Hmm. For me the dislike button was informative. If feels like they are trying to create a world where everything can only be good, better, even more better, which just doesn't represent reality. Imagine Stack Overflow only having the option to upvote Questions and Answers. The ratio of likes vs dislikes of a TED talk does help me to decide if I should stop watching a video which just isn't getting better.

Kinda of ironic that you can't downvote/dislike on this site here without enough upvotes yourself...

To have full rights in a civilised society, you need to prove that you can be a good citizen first. What's wrong with that?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by yellowbanana »

otrahuevada wrote: post #148

I mean, if a multi-month, google-scale experiment says it helps, it... probably does? But I'd personally like to see more get done to the robot likes/dislikes thing than this. You know, that thing where a video has 100 views but 150 likes+dislikes? It's simply too annoying to me.

This is attacking a problem that happens 1% of the time to ruin experience for the 99% of the time.

=> I mean, if a multi-month, google-scale experiment says it helps, it... probably does?

Helps who?

Youtube user incentives are not necessary alligned the with company incentives. If it helps by making you a "peaceful" consumer who can't assess on average how other people think.

Maybe it is good for youtube but is it good for you.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by kobalsky »

qwertox wrote: post #4

Hmm. For me the dislike button was informative. If feels like they are trying to create a world where everything can only be good, better, even more better, which just doesn't represent reality. Imagine Stack Overflow only having the option to upvote Questions and Answers. The ratio of likes vs dislikes of a TED talk does help me to decide if I should stop watching a video which just isn't getting better.

for all practical purposes it was cosmetic.

I constantly got heavily downvoted slideshow + text-to-speech autogenerated garbage videos that were ranked above good videos on search results

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by asciimov »

This is a damned shame. I use dislikes to gauge if a video is relevant to the topic at hand.

For example, I like fixing stuff and use Youtube for unfamiliar items. Often videos with a high number of dislikes are Spam (usually a bot reading text from some website), Videos where the person handwaves through the steps, videos where the fix is improper, or videos where the creator spends more time monetizing than working through the problem.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by r5Khe »

This is sure going to make YouTube a whole lot less useful for gathering information about a subject. I can't tell you how many DIY home improvement and exercise form demonstration videos I've been protected from because a lot of dislikes pointed me to the fact that something is terribly amiss in the content. Who knows how much money those ratios have saved me over the years.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by unethical_ban »

felistoria wrote: post #171
louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

The White House has one of the worst ratios. I would imagine thats likely why it happened.

This is some next-level conspiracy. Like most, it's feasible and perhaps in the realm of possibility, but there are probably 30 explanations above it in the "that makes sense" queue.

Notably, their rationale they posted. Isn't it possible that they both see a positive outcome for creators not to get votebombed, and remove negative publicity from corporate partners like Disney?

I challenge anyone to tell me they do NOT think that brigading downvotes/dislikes is a thing on forums and Youtube.

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