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Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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You might want to meet some football players/wrestlers/gymnasts etc before you tell someone to lose some pounds, just based on weight alone

What are the odds that someone posting on this site falls into those categories?

I am an avid powerlifter and used to compete in submission grappling. Now I write TypeScript code.

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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Lacks the safety features of airplanes (gliding) or helicopters (autorotation), has terrible rotor placement and small air time. I would advertise it as "your personal death machine". :) No amount of money would make me use that thing. EDIT: Ok, sorry, it says it has a parachute, but I still would not use it.

Parachutes have a minimum altitude. For standard human chutes, that’s 300 feet (100 meters) or so. Not sure what the ceiling is on this. They don’t have footage of it going too high. You only need to fall 30 feet (10 m), to buy the farm. Less, in many cases (depending on how you fall, and onto what).

> Parachutes have a minimum altitude.

If you have the money, zero/zero ballistic parachutes have been a reliable thing for more than half a century.

For ultralight sized aircraft, they cost about 1/5 the cost of a new airframe.

Generally they don't provide much survivability IMHO. Most ultralight deaths seem to boil down to CFIT and similar "happened too fast too close to ground" incidents with a side dish of refusal to do maintenance, and you know they're not going to maintain their airframe parachute or how its attached or how to engage it if they refuse to maintain their engine... But they are available and in special cases they might be useful.

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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post #157

Lacks the safety features of airplanes (gliding) or helicopters (autorotation), has terrible rotor placement and small air time. I would advertise it as "your personal death machine". :) No amount of money would make me use that thing. EDIT: Ok, sorry, it says it has a parachute, but I still would not use it.

Electric motors can autorotate just fine: https://youtu.be/QADYnVeHQOQ You can't descend quite as slow as a normal engine because the motor has somewhat more friction at low RPM, even though it's similar to free-spinning at higher RPM. That makes for a rougher final approach but just as much glide distance and control. Small rotors will make it more of a hassle but should still be quite safe. Even if you do end up to…

> Electric motors can autorotate just fine

Your video shows an electric helicopter with a full size helicopter main rotor, which is not what the Jetson vehicle uses.

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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post #200

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12 minutes endurance is absolute madness to any pilot. No way to fly this thing within the current regulations. A fuel powered aircraft needs to land with a legal minimum fuel reserve of 30 minutes when flying visually (good weather only), in worse weather it's 45 minutes + the time it takes to get to an alternate airport in case of problems at the destination. So usually 1 to 1.5 hour of reserve/alternate fuel on to…

Depends a lot on use case. I have some experience with visual inspection of aerial optical fiber. You can rent a very large and expensive helicopter to fly uncomfortably close to swaying fiber and power lines, or fly this thing up and down the line. There's also a lot of money in visual inspection of power lines. Not in California, LOL, where they just let it burn, but in better areas, when trees or vines get too clo…

It's not clear to me from your examples why this would be better than a human nearby piloting a drone?

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

#206
I am 6'3" tall and have the body of a programmer who also lifts weights. That means Ive got some body fat and some muscle mass and I weigh too much for this vehicle. Im not obese though. 210 lbs max weight is going to cut out a large percentage of the folks who could afford one- Athletes. I get this is Rev 1, but there isnt much flight time here and you have to be a small to medium sized person to fly it.

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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post #165

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The liquid fuels Moller used had much better energy densities than batteries, but it never flew without a tether. The Jetson One claims to have 20 minutes endurance, which is very impressive, but still impractical. I'm not so sure the finish line is within sight yet. This is closer to an ATV than it is to a scooter. It even looks a bit like a Honda Pilot ATV with propellors. It could attract more folks than a traditi…

I had no idea that Honda had first used the name Pilot for an ATV!

Odyssey too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Odyssey_(ATV)

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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If you're rich enough for this vehicle, it might be better to rent or buy a single engine plane instead. Yes, you gotta get a license but honestly after you get past the basics you'll probably fly better than Harrison Ford with little issue. I assume the real costs are going to be the hanger rental, insurance, and maintenance.

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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Some gyros can jump-start, as in pre-spin their rotor fast enough for vertical take off. It would add a bit of complexity but it'll still be relatively simple.

Wouldn’t that make the body spin in the opposite direction?

No, because the pre-spinning (torque applied to rotor) part happens on the ground with the rotor blades set to low/no pitch. The rotor then starts freewheeling (no torque applied or transferred from the rotor) and the blades' pitch angle is increased, which slows the rotor down, but momentarily creates enough lift to lift the autogyro into the air, where it immediately transitions to forward flight.

Re: Jetson One – Personal Electric Aerial Vehicle

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post #200

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12 minutes endurance is absolute madness to any pilot. No way to fly this thing within the current regulations. A fuel powered aircraft needs to land with a legal minimum fuel reserve of 30 minutes when flying visually (good weather only), in worse weather it's 45 minutes + the time it takes to get to an alternate airport in case of problems at the destination. So usually 1 to 1.5 hour of reserve/alternate fuel on to…

Depends a lot on use case. I have some experience with visual inspection of aerial optical fiber. You can rent a very large and expensive helicopter to fly uncomfortably close to swaying fiber and power lines, or fly this thing up and down the line. There's also a lot of money in visual inspection of power lines. Not in California, LOL, where they just let it burn, but in better areas, when trees or vines get too clo…

I imagine this would be way too loud to use in any police situation.

Besides, none of your examples require that a human actually be inside the vehicle. They could all be done by unmanned drone. The only reason to put a human in the vehicle is to travel.

Now if they replaced the human with its weight in batteries, or better yet a hydrogen tank with a fuel cell, this would give it a huge flight time which would make it much more useful.

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