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Re: Engineer demos how SpaceX is building fracked well gas plant

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Post by agar » Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 10:43 PM UTC

whatever1 wrote: post #199

agar wrote: post #190

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Why are you throwing out numbers like that while complaining about other people's unsourced information? You are also using a strawman argument. I said people should focus on areas of great impact, not "nobody has to do anything." I'm beginning to think you are not interested a credible discussion. This link refutes your assertion of ExxonMobil (they are responsible for 1.68% of global emissions), as well as answerin…

A source (opensecrets) that is claiming as a source itself(opensecrets analysis). You win.

Wow, you really have to question your motivations when you're defending Exxon's climate change contribution. But OK, I'll play that game.

The IPCC was the source for the OpenSecrets statement (as they said in the quote). They just consolidated the information. Feel free to read the IPCC Report yourself.

Or The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10...

(Table shows ExxonMobile at 1.98%)

Or Statistica: https://www.statista.com/statistics/531354/greenhouse-gas-em...

Or Sustainability Now: http://sustainabilitynow.com/Docs/exxons_climate_footprint.p...

> The contribution of emissions from ExxonMobil to total carbon dioxide concentrations above pre-industrial levels in 2002 was 4.8 to 5.5%. This percentage contribution from ExxonMobil has steadily increased, rising from 0% in 1882, to 2.5 to 2.8% in 1960 and then almost doubling in the last forty years to 4.8 to 5.5% in 2002. The contribution of methane emissions is smaller, peaking at 1.6% of total global concentrations above pre-industrial levels, in 2002.

Re: Engineer demos how SpaceX is building fracked well gas plant

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 1:50 AM UTC

brabel wrote: post #157

schiffern wrote: post #17

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>If anyone had any doubt about whether Elon really had the environment in mind when he founded Tesla, I think now you've got your answer. This sort of "tribal purity" logic is silly: "if you've ever done anything negative, it means you never intended to do anything positive." This is nothing but the environmentalism equivalent of the old "you're either with us or against us, we're at war!" fallacy. Rockets have alway…

> This sort of "tribal purity" logic is silly... If Greta Thunberg flew on a commercial airplane somewhere far away, she'd be accused of being a hyprocate, so she uses a sailboat to cross a freaking ocean when she wants to. This may be tribalism purity from the part of conservatives, but that's always going to be the reaction from the "opposite" side in this kind of situations because that's the obvious human respons…

Yah, meanwhile the support team for her, operating the sailboat and whatnot else flew on commercial planes, to be there at the destination, having it to ferry around, and so on. Whiler her message may be right, her PA is a shitshow.

Re: Engineer demos how SpaceX is building fracked well gas plant

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Post by whatever1 » Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 1:39 AM UTC

agar wrote: post #201

whatever1 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A source (opensecrets) that is claiming as a source itself(opensecrets analysis). You win.

Wow, you really have to question your motivations when you're defending Exxon's climate change contribution. But OK, I'll play that game. The IPCC was the source for the OpenSecrets statement (as they said in the quote). They just consolidated the information. Feel free to read the IPCC Report yourself. Or The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10... (Table shows ExxonMobile at 1.98%)…

One might question your ability to do basic research and a division.

ExxonMobil reports 120M tons of CO2 per year [1]

Our total anthropogenic emmissions according to IPCC, EPA and other credible scientific organizations are close to 35B tons of CO2 per year [2].

You can also calculate it by using the concentration of CO2 and the total volume of air on earth. But I guess this is out of your league.

Now divide 35B with 120M. You will get 0.0034. That is 0.34%.

One piece of advice. Don’t become a researcher. Keep posting on HN.

[1] https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/-/media/Global/Files/energy...

[2] https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions