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Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by d3nj4l »

LegitShady wrote: post #69
okwubodu wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Quest is standalone giving it the lowest barrier to entry even without the current PC market being terrible.

standalone VR is pretty garbage running off a phone graphics card. The quest is only interesting where you connect to PCVR, and then its not standalone.

This is the old PC master race thing again. Well duh, of course the Quest 2 is garbage compared to your $3k VR setup, but a $300 flat entry point to the VR space - no additional purchase or PC required - is undeniably a good thing for everyone.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

LegitShady wrote: post #83
LegitShady wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

standalone VR is pretty garbage running off a phone graphics card. The quest is only interesting where you connect to PCVR, and then its not standalone.

> When the average person's personal computing device is barely stronger than that phone graphics card it's pretty good. That's ok if you aren't strapping two screens on your face and trying to get the to run as high a refresh rate as you can go. As someone who bought into the new VR revival right away and followed the development of the initial headsets as closely as someone outside the companies developing them cou…

Standalone is great, especially for fitness application. I can't imagine ever using a wired setup, but I get your use cases might be different.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by mmastrac »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #194
polyomino wrote: post #185

This reminds me of the time that Steve Ballmer did an Q&A with Microsoft interns saying basically that he's happy everyone in China pirates Windows because then Microsoft sets the standard.

Reminds me of the time when the president of Romania told Bill Gates to his face that the Romanian IT industry has grown to where it is today thanks to everyone pirating Windows.[1] I'm still wondering what went through Bill's head hearing that. [1] https://www.wired.com/2007/02/romanian-presid/

"This will be a massive licensing stream in the future"

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by r00fus »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #194
polyomino wrote: post #185

This reminds me of the time that Steve Ballmer did an Q&A with Microsoft interns saying basically that he's happy everyone in China pirates Windows because then Microsoft sets the standard.

Reminds me of the time when the president of Romania told Bill Gates to his face that the Romanian IT industry has grown to where it is today thanks to everyone pirating Windows.[1] I'm still wondering what went through Bill's head hearing that. [1] https://www.wired.com/2007/02/romanian-presid/

"World domination, one step at a time"

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by LegitShady »

fastball wrote: post #166
LegitShady wrote: post #67

Just a reminder Oculus is a company founded on taking tech from other companies and getting away with it. Don't give them money, don't buy their devices. Getting acquired by facebook and turning the VR sets into spyware and facebook funnels just makes them worse. If you want to be ethical get an HMD from someone other than Oculus/Facebook. I wouldn't give them a dime. Sources: alan yates (posting as vk2zay on reddit)…

It's not stealing if it's given to you.

In the court of law, probably, although it will depend on how much was discussed in advance with those employees of valve.

But ethically, oculus is bankrupt.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by fastball »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #200
vermilingua wrote: post #193

Can anyone comment on the Quest vs Quest 2? I've heard that it's a difficult tradeoff, as the build quality of the Quest is better while the screen quality of the Quest 2 is a huge improvement. If the plan is to use one for a monitor replacement for extended periods, which is a better choice?

I have had both and although the Quest 2 has shitty lens adjustment that doesn't fit my IPD (pupillary distance) correctly, the clarity on the Quest 2, thanks to the higher resolution display and full-RGB pixel matrix vs pentile on the Quest 1, was just miles better than on the Quest 1 which had a better IPD adjustment system that fitted my eyesight. Couple this with the lower weight, more comfortable strap (I know),…

This guy[1] seems to like using the Quest 2 as a monitor replacement for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Previous HN discussion[2].

[1] https://blog.immersed.team/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d385

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28678041

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by [deleted] »

mmastrac wrote: post #203
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the time when the president of Romania told Bill Gates to his face that the Romanian IT industry has grown to where it is today thanks to everyone pirating Windows.[1] I'm still wondering what went through Bill's head hearing that. [1] https://www.wired.com/2007/02/romanian-presid/

"This will be a massive licensing stream in the future"

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by [deleted] »

r00fus wrote: post #204
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the time when the president of Romania told Bill Gates to his face that the Romanian IT industry has grown to where it is today thanks to everyone pirating Windows.[1] I'm still wondering what went through Bill's head hearing that. [1] https://www.wired.com/2007/02/romanian-presid/

"World domination, one step at a time"

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Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by fastball »

LegitShady wrote: post #205
fastball wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not stealing if it's given to you.

In the court of law, probably, although it will depend on how much was discussed in advance with those employees of valve. But ethically, oculus is bankrupt.

Still not following how it is ethically wrong to accept technology freely given by others.

Re: Oculess – Removes account requirements and telemetry from Oculus Quest devices

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Post by sneak »

dylan604 wrote: post #8
system2 wrote: post #7

Why not HTC Vive though? Better development, better privacy, more game support.

Don't take away the satisfaction this dev received from accomplishing a big FUCK YOU to the Zuck by releasing this. I'm sure it'll be a cat&mouse type of situation where Oculus will release an update that renders this useless, then these devs will update their end, and on it goes.

https://youtu.be/l3kjsbmZ-g0
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