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Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by qwerty456127 »

dynamite-ready wrote: post #197
qwerty456127 wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

I disagree. Language is very often used as a way to include and exclude people in and from various social groups. You're right in that there's never any direct harm in the sound of the words themselves. But you can say the same thing about verbally threatening physical harm (or even psychological harm) to someone, and would be very wrong in your assumption.

> But you can say the same thing about verbally threatening physical harm

No, verbally threatening physical harm induces reasonable fear and affects your logical reasoning because now you have to consider real risk.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by raxxorrax »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #173
marcus_holmes wrote: post #167

We used to call this the "Scunthorpe problem" - how do you filter for obviously rude names while still allowing people to have their actual names? Bearing in mind that some people's names are actually rude. I worked on the application form processing for the Nectar card launch in the UK back in the early 2000's, and we had several cases. Luckily we had human data-entry clerks in the loop, so all we had to do was flag…

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

I think words can hurt people in certain contexts, but it is very rarely about a single term.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by mnsc »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #184
qwerty456127 wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should just be taught (I would consider this is an essential skill which should be put in basic school curriculum to psychologically prepare people for the life, many support/sales professionals learn it quickly but the rest of the people don't) words are just words and they don't have to take them seriously. No word is rude until you consider it rude. No word can actually harm you directly. It's you who is in…

We used to be taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". I'm not so sure that has ever been true. Emotional bullying was always a thing, and it did hurt. I'm glad that we're now taking that more seriously. But it's also true that my emotions are my responsibility, and my emotional reaction to words is unique to me. I cannot force everyone else to be responsible for how I feel abo…

>I suspect that this balance is what we call "good manners" or "politeness".

Or "empathy". And I think on an interpersonal level this is easy. You can't force anyone else to be responsible for how you feel about their words, that is true. But if you say to a colleague or a friend that "when you call me X, that makes me feel bad, could you call me Y instead?". Depending on the friend they might want to understand why this feels bad, but they would call you Y from then on. Easy peasy.

But on a collective level we aren't yet (if we'll ever be) as developed a civilization to have empathy on that level. So some people want to, with good intentions, extend their empathy to others and write code like this. But seconds later, the creative and determined individual called cVnt_h_ater have bypassed the code and can proudly wear his misogyny on his sleeve.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by ithinkso »

rsynnott wrote: post #193
ithinkso wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both of you are allowed to swear on the internet

And yet, not _required_ to if they don't want to.

I agree, I only wanted to point out that they can I they want to. I didn't say they have to

Edit: I'm being downvoted so I want to explain - the internet is a huge mishmash of different cultures and all I wanted to say is that it is allowed to swear because I though that maybe, in their local one, it is not and they think it's universal

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by stragies »

ggrelet wrote: post #195
buildsjets wrote: post #73

My wife used to name her RPG characters “Isis” after a cat we used to have. Used to have to explain to vets that we named her Isis years before Bush and Cheney created Isis by starting their illegitimate war in Iraq.

Are people not familiar with the Egyptian goddess, though?

In 2021, hardly anybody remembers Isis to be the Goddess of Love who invented marriage

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by qwerty456127 »

mnsc wrote: post #204
marcus_holmes wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We used to be taught that "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". I'm not so sure that has ever been true. Emotional bullying was always a thing, and it did hurt. I'm glad that we're now taking that more seriously. But it's also true that my emotions are my responsibility, and my emotional reaction to words is unique to me. I cannot force everyone else to be responsible for how I feel abo…

>I suspect that this balance is what we call "good manners" or "politeness". Or "empathy". And I think on an interpersonal level this is easy. You can't force anyone else to be responsible for how you feel about their words, that is true. But if you say to a colleague or a friend that "when you call me X, that makes me feel bad, could you call me Y instead?". Depending on the friend they might want to understand why…

> the creative and determined individual called cVnt_h_ater have bypassed the code and can proudly wear his misogyny on his sleeve.

Why deny him this right? Isn't it convenient to let kids and mentally unhealthy people to identity themselves this obviously? It's always easier when you know what to expect.

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by OJFord »

shadilay wrote: post #95
msdrigg wrote: post #18

Whats this one about? CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION is_blasphemy (VARCHAR) RETURNS BOOLEAN STABLE AS $$ SELECT replace($1,'_','') SIMILAR TO '%p(o|0)rc(o|0)di(o|0)%' OR replace($1,'_','') SIMILAR TO '%p(o|0)rc(o|0)mad(o|0)nna%' $$ LANGUAGE SQL;

That one was my favorite too. Filter lists don't work well in a multi lingual world. https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/a01w7q/got_banned...

Mine is `create or replace function is_tragedy`! (Not the tragedy itself of course, though I confess I'm unfamiliar, just that line specifically.)

Re: The naughty username checking system used by Twitch

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Post by OJFord »

_hilro wrote: post #190
ibudiallo wrote: post #105

I used to work for a company that automated customer service. While we were trialing with new a client, our ai service responded to a customer: "Hey B**, thanks for reaching out." To our surprise, the end user did not feel offended at all. In fact, they were happy because we responded instantly instead of the usual 24 to 48 hours. [Story]: https://idiallo.com/blog/do-you-make-your-customers-wait

The word is bitch so the sanitised version would be B** Why portray the bad word as 3 letters - it doesn't make sense.

Ha, the same thing probably happened to GP as has happened to you - unescaped * characters (escape with `\`) resulting in two imperceptibly italic asterisks.
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