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Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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post #198

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What can you send from your phone that will get you arrested by the FBI, vs what can get you arrested by Chinese forces? Is this a valid comparison?

Nice try!

You could always link some news article on the FBI abuses.

But you also have a gmail address, so I don't understand the reaction.

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Canada has unofficially banned the sale of theirdevices, or at least that’s why eBay said the Canadian government told them to not allow their sale.

Though eBay.ca just blocked any listing containing the word “xiaomi”, though they make a ton of things that aren’t phones. I just took out xiaomi and left the model number and sold my thing.

Still waiting for my government to respond to my request to find out why.

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I think you would have to be mad to leave the stock ROM running on a Xiaomi phone, IIRC they were caught logging peoples browser history a few years ago. Several models have mainline LineageOS support, I'm running Lineage on my Mix 2S and hope to have years worth of updates going forward. The hardware is really good value as long as you install an non-tainted OS.

I was stupid enough to buy a Xiaomi phone without enough due diligence. Aside from all spying that is going on, the software is abysmal. The problem with replacing the OS is that I believe most banking apps I use will stop working. Might just need to write this phone off.

This is why I still have my iPhone around. I know that one day my banking apps will just stop working. For now, Magisk Hide does the job.

Next time when I'll be looking for a new Android phone to buy, stock Android will be a hard requirement. I was stupid to pick my Xiaomi phone for it's hardware, I should've just gone with a Motorola.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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"Free Tibet", "Long live Taiwan independence" or "democracy movement". Sent from my Xiaomi, let's see if it works. Anyway, I always thought if I have to use American phone backdoored by FBI or Chinese phone backdoored by China, I choose Chinese because they really cannot arrest me, unlike FBI.

What can you send from your phone that will get you arrested by the FBI, vs what can get you arrested by Chinese forces? Is this a valid comparison?

ECHELON!

More seriously no platform is trustworthy unless it’s airgapped these days.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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post #194

"Free Tibet", "Long live Taiwan independence" or "democracy movement". Sent from my Xiaomi, let's see if it works. Anyway, I always thought if I have to use American phone backdoored by FBI or Chinese phone backdoored by China, I choose Chinese because they really cannot arrest me, unlike FBI.

Except your phone is not backdoored by the FBI.

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From the shared PDF page 23... "It has been established that during the initialisation of the system applications factory-installed on a Xiaomi Mi 10T device, these applications contact a server in Singapore at the address globalapi.ad.xiaomi.com (IP address 47.241.69.153) and download the JSON file MiAdBlacklistConfig, and save this file in the metadata catalogues of the applications. A list of applications for whic…

Is it me or is this an extremely clumsy way of doing censorship? Why not do this at network or server-side level? Why not use some kind of hash (ala Apple'e proposed child pornography hunter)? In this design, everyone would have to have this plain text configuration file ... also other brands (Oppo, Huawei etc.) would have to have it. What if it needs an update? Suppose the hui muslims starts causing trouble ... Or i…

I guess it comes down to, why bother when the simplest solution works?

Make no mistake: As and when they get caught out doing such things, the sophistication of their implementation is bound to increase, in response to it. Money is no object for state-actors and mega-corps.

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post #129

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Even apps like Netflix are configured not to be available on Google play if the device is not a certified one. That certification is lost AFAIK on rooting. I have two perfectly good android tablets that can’t run Netflix

Is there anyone who knows how to root a device that doesn't know how to torrent?

Not even just that but magisk modules can show phone as stock to banking apps and such.

Really this all just shows that people will truly put up with anything to make their lives more convenient, or for them to have to do less work.

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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post #194

"Free Tibet", "Long live Taiwan independence" or "democracy movement". Sent from my Xiaomi, let's see if it works. Anyway, I always thought if I have to use American phone backdoored by FBI or Chinese phone backdoored by China, I choose Chinese because they really cannot arrest me, unlike FBI.

Well, if you have anything on your Chinese phone (assuming it dead leak/back door back to China) that could get you arrested by the FBI - then whoever in China who had that ability to use it could then blackmail you with threats of arrest by the FBI if they told them, and you’d be in even worse shape right?

Especially since then they’d probably have you do things that would result in even more jail time if caught than the original thing. And since your data is transiting international borders all the time, it would make a nice juicy target for the NSA as well!

Re: Lithuania says throw away Chinese phones due to censorship concerns

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Banking has to be the dumbest "security" industry there is. Restrict apps, but can still log in via browser. I have one bank app that actually says to screenshot a payment screen for your records, while blocking screenshots via app policy.

> Restrict apps, but can still log in via browser. This isn't paradoxical. You treat the browser as a less trusted security domain than a phone, which usually has a secure boot chain, strong sandboxing, encrypted disk, reliable hardware cryptography etc, and therefore provide a different/better service on the phone. If a phone is missing one of these expected components then you're not the target market for the app,…

They allow browsers with, for example, extensions that can spy on a banking interaction with very little effort.
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