WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

Post by diragon » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 6:51 AM UTC

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To be honest the only way we will ever know is if the chinese would share the genomes of the viruses they stored in their lab, but who would trust them to do that? The express drive-by the WHO did in china served absolutely no purpose. I am ready to bet that all samples have been destroyed and the staff briefed (warned). I would even suspect the samples have not even been analysed by the Chinese themselves as it is b…

The Chinese didn't do anything that we wouldn't have done. In fact, they took better steps than we did, as far as the pandemic is concerned. Of course the dude had concerns, anyone with half a brain would explore all of the possible origins and theories. But the lab leak theory is just that - one theory that could explain the situation at hand. The problem is that too many people have put far too much stock in the la…

Post by tinus_hn » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 7:05 AM UTC

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Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

The previous administration had zero credibility on anything and were rightly laughed out of the room.

Post by shakezula » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 8:35 AM UTC

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The Chinese didn't do anything that we wouldn't have done. In fact, they took better steps than we did, as far as the pandemic is concerned. Of course the dude had concerns, anyone with half a brain would explore all of the possible origins and theories. But the lab leak theory is just that - one theory that could explain the situation at hand. The problem is that too many people have put far too much stock in the la…

What the Chinese do is different in that when the government orders the people to do something, they actually do it. Depending on what you think about the virtues of government, that's something between a pretty good thing or the worst horror you can imagine.

Post by diragon » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 12:58 PM UTC

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What the Chinese do is different in that when the government orders the people to do something, they actually do it. Depending on what you think about the virtues of government, that's something between a pretty good thing or the worst horror you can imagine.

I don’t think Americans understand the government having that type of involvement tbh. It’s just so foreign a concept to us as a whole. It’s kind of arrogant tbh.

Post by dkersten » Sat, Aug 14, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

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The claim isn't that it was engineered, just that it escaped the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Besides, reports from China predated any from the USA, so for it to even be in the USA, CCP needed to have failed in containing it. I'm not denying that the USA's covering it up made it worse, it absolutely did. The US government aren't innocent in the global spread of the virus. But this entire discussion was about whether…

Agreed, it seems to me like we’ll never know for sure. Some aspects of china’s behavior are suspicious, and the lab leak theory is a plausible hypothetical, but I doubt we’ll ever see the evidence to know either way. We should definitely be reconsidering our own funding and oversight of any research that is similar to “gain of function”.