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Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by cdolan »

If I was in charge, I'd try to find as many non-spammy and wholesome Content Creators, like Mark Rober or Dustin /w Smarter Every Day, and have them figure out a way to scale a program/syndication that attracts content creators similar to them.

Youtube is great. You can learn anything on Youtube... but Youtube is also filled with absolute trash childrens programming that literally rots my kids' brains as they watch it. Thats not to mention the unfathomable child porn rings that were caught time-stamp commenting unintentionally suggestive poses by underage kids...

We need a curated Youtube for the curious mind that doesn't waste my time with 3 minutes of content stretched to 11 mins to get monetized.

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by Avery3R »

cdolan wrote: post #201

If I was in charge, I'd try to find as many non-spammy and wholesome Content Creators, like Mark Rober or Dustin /w Smarter Every Day, and have them figure out a way to scale a program/syndication that attracts content creators similar to them. Youtube is great. You can learn anything on Youtube... but Youtube is also filled with absolute trash childrens programming that literally rots my kids' brains as they watch i…

Aren't they already trying that with the nebula/curiositystream thing they advertise endlessly?

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by cdolan »

Avery3R wrote: post #202
cdolan wrote: post #201

If I was in charge, I'd try to find as many non-spammy and wholesome Content Creators, like Mark Rober or Dustin /w Smarter Every Day, and have them figure out a way to scale a program/syndication that attracts content creators similar to them. Youtube is great. You can learn anything on Youtube... but Youtube is also filled with absolute trash childrens programming that literally rots my kids' brains as they watch i…

Aren't they already trying that with the nebula/curiositystream thing they advertise endlessly?

Maybe, but two things: - I follow both channels pretty closely and I don't know what you are talking about. So it must not be working that well? - It sounds like they are doing this nebula/curiositystream thing themselves. If someone/the government funded them or just gave them control over a program I bet they would have an even bigger impact.

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by Noos »

mandmandam wrote: post #171
pfraze wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This folds into the general class of calls-to-inaction which they use to pass off systemic problems. "Why are millenials poor and expecting more? Perhaps they were raised wrong by TV. Let's not examine it further." I personally didn't see shots at Mr Rogers get much further than this weak Fox segment among conservatives, for what it's worth.

Fox News ran a hit piece on one of the kindest and most beloved educators in America. It's obvious (to some) that they did this to divert from systemic problems. That's what they do, and they're still allowed to call themselves News. At what point do Americans stand up for a bare minimum level of journalism? And remember, that while Fox might not have gotten far with this particular piece in your experience, they sen…

When he actually was broadcasting, he was never considered "one of the most beloved educators." That was recent hagiography, and I watched him as a child growing up in the 70s. He was one of several. Bob Keehan/Captain Kangaroo was another personality for very young kids. I can say as a child at that time we outgrew him fairly quickly and didn't really hang around him much. If anything, most of the content of that time was similar; Gumby, David and Goliath, Bozo the Clown, and more were discarded as soon as better came along. It was that odd time of transition.

He was the definition of pablum; formula you gave to babies. He was outdated compared to Sesame Street and Electric Company, and was almost kitsch just like Bob Ross was. I believe he was lionized more because millenials and zoomers are so overstimulated they crave the opposite now; blandness to the point of sedation.

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by Nasrudith »

satellite2 wrote: post #187

Everyone here discuss a new online newspaper. It would be refreshing to get intelligent content for free and not hidden between an amrmada of paywalls but would not be not enough. At this point, to protect democracy and its values, full fledged state sponsored reverse troll farms are what we desperatly need. A lot of the engagement is simply led by fake accounts piloted by humans and thus realistic enough to break th…

So what would the difference be between the two again and why should we trust "our" state sponsored troll farms? Frankly that logic is like suggesting we need to molest our kids at home to protect them from being molested by teachers and clergy.

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by nobody9999 »

ewhanley wrote: post #41
Mizza wrote: post #5

But PBS is already on the internet.. I love public media and have worked in the public media industry, and what I think what we really need is PBS for conservatives. Can you name a _single_ conservative PBS/NPR host or program? Was there a _single_ time in the past 5 years they gave any legitimate consideration to the viewpoints that 50% of the country hold, or acknowledged the material conflict underlying their ideo…

I am admittedly a big fan of PBS, so maybe I'm blind to it, but I don't see the bias. I can't name a single conservative show, I suppose, but I can't name a single liberal show either. News and televisions don't have to have a political slant. I think we are all (in the US) too accustomed to opinionated news programming and are left searching for the bias when presented with plain information. PBS presents a lot of h…

>I can't name a single conservative show, I suppose,

Firing Line[0]

>but I can't name a single liberal show either.

Frontline[1]

The thing is that William F. Buckley, Jr. (who originated Firing Line), were he alive today, would be demonized as a RINO and closet socialist by those who claim the mantle of "conservative" today.

Mostly because those who claim to be "conservative" aren't. Rather, many (not all) are radical reactionaries and not at all conservative.

Feel free to disagree, but if you look at the policies and priorities of such conservatives as Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan and both Bushes, the only policy priorities that have been retained by those who currently claim to be conservative are support for big business, hatred of anything non-white, and bible-thumping morons.

Everything else (small government, individual rights/liberty, equal opportunity, etc.) have fallen by the wayside.

Feel free to disagree. Or don't and take the easy way out. But there's a reasonable and reasoned discussion to be had in that space. If you don't participate in that, the loss is yours.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_Line_(TV_program)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontline_(American_TV_program...

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by Wolfenstein98k »

ewhanley wrote: post #41
Mizza wrote: post #5

But PBS is already on the internet.. I love public media and have worked in the public media industry, and what I think what we really need is PBS for conservatives. Can you name a _single_ conservative PBS/NPR host or program? Was there a _single_ time in the past 5 years they gave any legitimate consideration to the viewpoints that 50% of the country hold, or acknowledged the material conflict underlying their ideo…

I am admittedly a big fan of PBS, so maybe I'm blind to it, but I don't see the bias. I can't name a single conservative show, I suppose, but I can't name a single liberal show either. News and televisions don't have to have a political slant. I think we are all (in the US) too accustomed to opinionated news programming and are left searching for the bias when presented with plain information. PBS presents a lot of h…

When half of politics calls something biased against them, but you watch it and think it's fine, you're on the other half of politics.

Which is fine, btw. Just worth knowing.

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by Noos »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #144
JaggerFoo wrote: post #142

So boring content that everyone says they like, but never consume, with constant requests for donations. So what would be the purpose? Current trusted platforms are ignored and news outlets that report on ignorant humans with wacko theories defying reality are thriving. One or more additional trusted platform will not make a difference.

> So boring content that everyone says they like, but never consume, with constant requests for donations. #notallnprlisteners #notallnprstations

No, NPR is the Ikea of radio. It should be roundly mocked a lot more than it is.

Re: The Push for a “PBS for the Internet”

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Post by travismark »

nwatson wrote: post #34
jds_ wrote: post #6

I would like to note that PBS does actually publish Youtube videos via PBS Digital Studios[0][1]. They have great creators making PBS quality content but in "Youtube" style formats with a wide range of topics (science, popular culture, art, food, news, and music). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBS_Digital_Studios [1] https://www.youtube.com/c/pbsdigitalstudios/channels

We watch the full PBS NewsHour most nights, simulcast/streamed live on YouTube (also available on all/most PBS affiliates) ... and it's available for later viewing as well. Some would say it leans a bit left but I think it's the best unbiased presentation of (U.S.) national concerns. They get wide access for interview to the most relevant American and non-American persons across a wide range of topics and are not afr…

I used to watch Newshour most nights but since last summer I've quit. too many stories are unbearably biased. and Mr Capehart is a poor substitute for Mr Shields on Fridays. The former is so predictable, why watch
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