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Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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post #198

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I just created a tasks for "every Tue", reschedule to tomorrow (Wed) After marking it as finished the next one is still on next Tue

Ah, it seems like if you choose a date in the date picker, or from the "Today, Tomorrow, etc" list it keeps "Every Tuesday" in the text box and gives the behaviour you describe. I always schedule by typing, so I end up replacing "Every Tuesday" with "Wednesday" and then it doesn't work.

Can't help you in that case!

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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post #70

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From point (1) in the post: > The amount of things one can customize is really large, but making all this decisions has a cost.

I don't see how that's relevant; my comment was about the OP's assertion that completed TODOs disappear from view. In Roam, when toggling an item from TODO->DONE, the "DONE" items persist in the UI wherever you created them. (No extra decisions involved.)

Same holds true for Obsidian, too -- marking checklist items done styles them with strikethrough, but they remain visible.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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Many years ago I built an iOS app called BetterDo that dealt with some of these issues. It broke long ago after some iOS update, and I let it slip away. But I really miss it.

1. No dates. Instead I had sublists by timeframe: Today, Tomorrow, This Week, Weekend, Next Week, Some Day. And it was easy to move an item between sublists. It was easy to move things up and down to indicate next up. Every morning I would scan the Today and Tomorrow items, and move them around to suit my plan for the day.

I don't want or expect my To Do list to stop me from procrastinating. Rather I want it to support healthier procrastination by never letting me totally forget the things I keep putting off.

2. One thing I realized is that weekend task is different than a weekday task. I'm not going to mow my lawn on a weekday. Conversely many tasks require a business to be open and cannot be done on the weekend. On weekday mornings I don't want to be staring at a list of my weekend chores.

3. When you completed an item, it was crossed out but visible until you deleted it. Delicious positive reinforcement.

One important insight is that a To Do list is not to keep track of all the things you need to do. It's to keep track of the annoying things only. You won't forget to do things you look forward to doing.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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post #146

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> People drag on GTD but David Allen I’ve not yet found a decent alternative. I think a better book could be written on it though. I think the system could be explained in fewer words making it accessible to more people. David’s book is a good read but you probably have to be very serious about fixing this part of your life to put in the effort required to understand and implement it.

My take on the book was it could’ve been ~20 pages, but had to be padded out to full book length. A lot of that in the self help category.

I don’t remember that book having many fluffy parables. A lot of it was the kind of implementation detail he would talk through in person with a coaching client. I would think most people looking for that kind of help would rather just use the time it takes to read a full book to help them think through their personal situation.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

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You're talking about lists in general. His system is built on lists. The TODO list, as he's using the term, means a single list where you dump all the tasks you need to do or might want to do. Without further thought, you end up with a long list of items, no guidance about what you should be doing, and stress because there are incomplete items on your list. If you're not going beyond that, the TODO list is a terrible…

There's nothing about TODO lists that says you have one list per person. And "TODO lists don't work, unless you have many of them" is counterintuitive and misleading at best.

You should just read the book instead of guessing at the ideas in it.
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