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Goodbye, Fleets

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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Perhaps people are anxious about tweeting because a single tweet can ruin your life?

Please point to one person whose life was ruined from a single tweet, and who didn't deserve it. Yes, it exposes unapologetic racists and misogynists. That's a good thing. People who genuinely learn from their fuckups are generally called out, but their lives are hardly "ruined".

David Shor - he was impulsively fired by his firm last June for just a tweet linking to academic research (I think by a black academic) that argued that violent protests following the MLK assassination reduced the share of Democratic support in the following presidential election, while non-violent protests increase Democratic support: https://www.vox.com/2020/7/29/21340308/david-shor-omar-wasow.... David Shor is a committed socialist and Democratic data scientist, but that was not enough to protect him from accusations of racism in the post-George-Floyd period.

I think he's done okay for himself after his firing, but being summarily fired for supposed racism always poses a high risk of long-term negative career impact, no matter how trivial the supposed deed was that precipitated the firing - David Shor wasn't even making an edgy joke, or implying anything negative about minorities.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting. You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire proces…

What's the state of Twitter API these days? Can some company really build their own app on top of Twitter feeds?

You can but they heavily limit the amount of access tokens your app can generate, artificially limiting the amount of users your app can have.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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It's not just technical. Jack doesn't want it. https://www.wired.com/story/jack-dorsey-wont-get-edit-tweet-... > Dorsey was unusually direct: “The answer is no,” he says. > “The reason there's no edit button [and] there hasn't been an edit button traditionally is we started as an SMS text messaging service," explains Dorsey. "So as you all know, when you send a text, you can’t really take it back. We wanted to preser…

Jack really is just a blithering idiot. There are plenty of reasons you could give for not adding this feature, but that one, that's probably the worst.

Why though? It's bad enough when online news sites edit their articles and a later version carries some different information with no or little hint that it was edited.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Also, who's going to feel less anxiety when filming themselves vs. typing?

Makes me think (and shudder) about how one could make filters for text. I partially regret saying this and also still curious :-)

Microsoft already did it, it was called Word Art

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Facebook already has similar edit functionality and I’m curious how many users click through to see the edits. I’ll be the number is not high. The speed Twitter moves I think a lot more people are going to mash the retweet button than the “see edits” button.

Facebooks edit history is also hidden in grey text next to the timestamp. I bet putting a "This tweet has been edited" notice actually inline with the content would be effective.

Exactly my thought.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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The lack of innovation at Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is utterly baffling and points to a serious culture problem. Feels there are rooms of people now just being paid to clone successful features from other apps and only after those apps have carved their place in the market, literally become followers rather than trailblazers. In just a few years Instagram is going to seem completely old hat to anyone who didn't…

Established social media companies innovating is how you get new reddit. I think the facebook strategy of not changing successful platforms and continually building/buying new ones makes the most sense.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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> I would think that a big problem here is to only allow correcting typos, not changing meaning of a tweet - which would suck for a public, fast-paced platform like twitter. I feel like GitHub already solved that problem by showing an edit history on comments. Twitter could do the same thing. Even easier: don't actually publish tweets for 60 seconds, during which time they can be edited.

Facebook already has similar edit functionality and I’m curious how many users click through to see the edits. I’ll be the number is not high. The speed Twitter moves I think a lot more people are going to mash the retweet button than the “see edits” button.

Also will all the retweets be edited as well or do you retweet a snapshot?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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> I would think that a big problem here is to only allow correcting typos, not changing meaning of a tweet - which would suck for a public, fast-paced platform like twitter. I feel like GitHub already solved that problem by showing an edit history on comments. Twitter could do the same thing. Even easier: don't actually publish tweets for 60 seconds, during which time they can be edited.

No one would actually look at that though. You need to cater to the masses or make it exceedingly obvious

It would make it easy to call out anything nefarious, though.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting Did Fleets address the problem of political extremists using Twitter to go after people's livelihoods?

They probably do actually - they disappear after a short time and you can't link to them.
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